i tried to find my post from a few weeks back but it looks like it might have gotten deleted ...oh well. i was seeing a significant drop in speed after adding a ghost to my pacman game on my laptop but not on my desktop. well i fixed it and i feel like a retard. i was originally blitting a 20x19 matrix of 24x24 tiles for the level everytime which, in theory, shouldnt slow the frame rate much seeing as thats all i was doing in a testbed prog i made. didnt think of it till now that blitting the level layout to a surface and just blitting once every frame shot up my frame rate like you wouldnt believe (on my laptop that is). still alittle confused by that seeing how my laptop beats out my desktop in every aspect except the video card(my desktop has a viper v770 ultra and my laptop has 6mb of whatever sorta card sony threw in there). if you''re pissed you just read this cause it just lowered your IQ, sorry...go blow some ppl''s heads off in urban terror. later all. yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift... -TapRoot AIM screen name: StarCraftIsEvil