anyone know where i can get a good map editor. I already know of Mappy but I dont want to use it. Any others ? "Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time" - Monty Python and the Holy Grail themGames Productions

You want a 2d tile map editor right? Check out the Gauntlet Style Project (link is on the left of gamedev.net main page, something like game projects). They have an open source map editor available for download..