Just to throw in my 2 cents... I use VC++ 6 SP4 under Windows 2000 Pro about 10 hrs a day and have almost no problems with it.
I certainly wouldn''t say its one of the buggiest programs I''ve ever used...Quite the opposite, its the nicest, most bug-free environment I''ve used (and that includes emacs/gcc/gnutools as I was a UNIX-geek long before switching over to mostly Microsoft development).

Of course, as alyways, your mileage may vary...But my experiences have been good. If you were talking about Visual C++ 4 or 5, I''d agree with you...Many headaches for me in days past. But 6.0 SP4 is pretty darn solid.

Try to del all working files excp your codes and begin F7.
Dont work? Have no idea . . .

eiro

I use VC6 learning edition, no service packs installed and it has never crashed or anything

I run Plain Stock Standard Windows 98, and Visual C++ 6 runs perfectly, only crashing maybe 1 out of 100000 times, if that.

However I sometimes don''t use it because their are tools that are more lightweight memory wise, (i.e. UltraEdit32 (try it, it is all good)), and they load quicker. (using command line build tools).

But back to the main point, VC++ 6, has hardly ever crashed on me using Window 98. However I recently installed Windows 98 Second Edition, and VC++ 6 stalled when compiling constantly, crashed whenever loading stuff, and other misc bugs cropped up.

Yeah, So the moral of this story is:
Stick with what works, don''t upgrade if you don''t have too.
(Hell, I know people that still use Wordperfect 5.1 for dos )

Regards,
Nekosion

Heh - just use Borland C++ Builder. At least you won''t have to go delving into the MFC classes, only to discover that the features documented in the help files haven''t been implemented yet.

If only the code-completion in BCB worked as well as the one in MSVC, then I''d be completely happy (+ they should borrow some more of the great features from Emacs c++-mode).

I''ve had the same problem at university. There the problem is, that the NT file system (operating over a network) takes a while for the file to be saved. So VC says the file hasn''t changed and updates it''s timestamps ... argh ... that is annoying as hell. The only solution is to force the compile as some people have mentioned.

BTW, what do you do, when your program crashes in "new"? Has anyone ever had that one?

- MK42

Well, VC6 has a couple bugs for me:

1)ALOT of the time, I''ll F7 Build, it builds everything just fine, then I hit Ctrl-F5 or F5 to debug or run what I just built, and it says that the files are out of date... blah blah blah, and will continue to do this until I do a rebuild. annoying, but not major.

2)Hang on Build. Hit F7, wait... wait... 30 seconds later it starts building. Sometimes VC6 will just crash.

3)Edit & Continue only has problems for me when I''m having problem #1 too.

I can''t complain, it''s pretty stable, even when it crashes on me, all files have already been saved... only thing not updated are the project settings, which HAS got me a few times.

VC6 may have some IDE related bugs, but FYI I find it HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubtful that crashes occuring in your exe are compiler related. 99.999999999999% of the time unexplainable crashes are caused by a side effect of buggy code elsewhere.

Get yourself into the habit of blaming your code _always_ first. Every time - I mean _every_ time I have found a really weird bug in my code eventually it comes down to some head-slapping "doh!" moment elsewhere in my project where I did something really stupid.

I have worked on quite a few commercial games the past few years and that has been my experience..

Sometimes cl.exe crashes when I abort compilation, and ClassView is really buggy, but otherwise I haven't had any problems.

EDIT: I have Standard edition and SP4.

-Jussi

"Your heat rips through me
Your hands rip my skin
Deep inside your love
You're screaming for me again"

Edited by - Selkrank on October 10, 2000 5:33:08 AM

I think its pretty stable...
Especially for a Microsoft product

Win98 SE with VC 6 Professional SP4, no major problems
If VCSPAWN keeps hanging you got to reboot and then do a complete rebuild. Fixes it for me.