Its a dell laptop? Hey Nazrix, how do you clear the bios (tech help doc's may call this "How to remove unknown bios password")?
On my compaq pos, it needs to be unplugged, batteries removed, taken completely apart and the bios battery unplugged and then it needs to sit for 24 hours like that.
Clear the bios, boot from disk with the HD unplugged from the laptop and run mem then
Don't use a boot disk you've made since you noticed the memory loss.
Also, some laptops have built in ram, if you remove the simm from them, they still boot with ~8megs or 4megs, sometimes.
Edited by - Magmai Kai Holmlor on October 7, 2000 6:47:09 PM
640k conventional memory
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i use a boot disk from another win98 machine. i would surely want to clear the bios to see if that works. interesting. i gotta try that. sounds good. it''ll have to wait till later though. midterms coming up...
clearing the bios! sounds good to me. thanks for the tipper.
a2k
clearing the bios! sounds good to me. thanks for the tipper.
a2k
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quote: Original post by Magmai Kai Holmlor
Its a dell laptop? Hey Nazrix, how do you clear the bios (tech help doc's may call this "How to remove unknown bios password")?
hehe...
you just have to download it from our web site and boot up off the disk the file from the website creates.
a2k,
you can check out http://www.dell.com/filelib to look for the newest bios out there.
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Edited by - Nazrix on October 7, 2000 10:28:00 PM
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October 07, 2000 09:22 PM
virus in the bios? hmmm, not unless the virus figured out a way to alter chips.....that would take on hell of a programmer :-)
the bios is the software that controls the CMOS which is the chip. So, a virus can write to the bios which is software.
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*Groan*
If your anti-virus program can''t find a virus, chances are you don''t have one, especially one that writes the MBR! Those are the easiest to detect.
[qutote]the bios is the software that controls the CMOS which is the chip. So, a virus can write to the bios which is software.
Not exactly. If it''s hard-coded, it is impossible to change. This would require physically changing the positions of wires inside the microchip, and that cannot be done!
If it''s Flash memory (which can be changed for upgrading purposes), however, it is possible. This means it''s possible in nearly all new computers .
If it''s just the amount of memory available/free, you had better find more evidence before you resort to formatting the drive or other drastic measures. This may not neccessarily be a virus; you may just have a non-standard chipset. Don''t jump to conclusions!!!
Unless you have proof that you have a virus, I wouldn''t worry about it; having virus scanned with the latest software and formated your hard drive, I think the chance of you having a virus is pretty much zero. And I''m sorry to hear that many people on this forum don''t know jack about how memory actually works.
To wipe your BIOS, all you have to really do is to remove the battery in your computer, then reinstall it. All computers have a battery to keep the BIOS intact and keep the clock running when the computer is turned off.
Of course, if the BIOS is in non-volitile memory, you''ll have to flash it or replace it. But I don''t think anybody uses non-volitile memory, since it''s more expensive and unneccessary.
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away" --Henry David Thoreau
If your anti-virus program can''t find a virus, chances are you don''t have one, especially one that writes the MBR! Those are the easiest to detect.
[qutote]the bios is the software that controls the CMOS which is the chip. So, a virus can write to the bios which is software.
Not exactly. If it''s hard-coded, it is impossible to change. This would require physically changing the positions of wires inside the microchip, and that cannot be done!
If it''s Flash memory (which can be changed for upgrading purposes), however, it is possible. This means it''s possible in nearly all new computers .
If it''s just the amount of memory available/free, you had better find more evidence before you resort to formatting the drive or other drastic measures. This may not neccessarily be a virus; you may just have a non-standard chipset. Don''t jump to conclusions!!!
Unless you have proof that you have a virus, I wouldn''t worry about it; having virus scanned with the latest software and formated your hard drive, I think the chance of you having a virus is pretty much zero. And I''m sorry to hear that many people on this forum don''t know jack about how memory actually works.
To wipe your BIOS, all you have to really do is to remove the battery in your computer, then reinstall it. All computers have a battery to keep the BIOS intact and keep the clock running when the computer is turned off.
Of course, if the BIOS is in non-volitile memory, you''ll have to flash it or replace it. But I don''t think anybody uses non-volitile memory, since it''s more expensive and unneccessary.
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away" --Henry David Thoreau
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away"--Henry David Thoreau
okay, just forget the virus thing. but i''m STILL missing 4k. i DID have 640k before. how the hell do you explain that? thanks anyone for help.
a2k
a2k
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October 08, 2000 07:58 PM
actually a flash bios can be reprogrammed. There are many viruses that are programmed to attack flash bios system, which brings to mind the CIH chernobyl virus, one of the more infamous ones. However not all motherboards and chipsets allow writing to BIOS, but some do...
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