I personally prefer VC++ over Borland. I like it better for Win32 since the company that made the compiler is the same one that made the API! Does Borland have that totally awesome "autocomplete" feature that VC++ has? You know, like when you type:

    RECT rect;rect. // a selection box with "right, left, top, and bottom" pops up    

and when you type functions the parameters are shown for you. I love that.

Anyways, it''s your final decision pal. You''ve used them both, decide which one you like using better. Also take notice of your classmates and which one they like better. If it''s a beginner''s computer programming course, most of the people starting out like Visual C++ from what I''ve noticed.

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Yes BCB has the nifty pop-up boxes and I think Builder does too, in fact I think they had it first VC5 didn''t have em, I almost liked VB5 better because of that

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And know all about delphi, I''m force to use at work too and all I think about is much longer everything takes
The senoir programmer I work with insist it has faster development time too... I just don''t see it.
Try using VC6, it has a few nifty features that make coding so much easier, like those popup boxes and auto-completes that are missing from vc5.

I''ve personally always liked VC++ over Borland, probably because of past experiences with them. At first I loved the DOS version of Borland (it''s the only one I had access to at the time) over the VC++ compiler I had (which was version 1.0! that thing was annoying and made me hate it). Now that I have VC++6 Professional I use the Borland compiler for simple little programs to keep my brother out of my computer, lol. Any game stuff I do, I do in VC++6. Although, from what I''ve heard, I may just convince my teacher to give me a copy of the 50 that our school got so that I can have it at home as well. Thanx for the input.

Delphi (version 5, anyway) has the same kinds of auto-complete and pop-ups that VC has. I can certainly understand different programming environment preferences for a variety of reasons, but I can''t understand how anyone could think working in VC or Borland C++ (not BCB) is *faster* than working in Delphi (or VB, for that matter). Just to make a simple dialog box and return a few values requires tons more work in VC (MFC or not) than Delphi. Creating *any* usable visual interface element is so much quicker and easier in Delphi compared to VC I don''t understand how anyone could not agree if they''ve used it. Delphi has its weaknesses like any other development environment (compiled VC6 code runs significantly faster than Delphi code, for example), but speed and ease of development are not among them. Hell, the string handling, dynamic arrays and TList class are enough to keep me using it, not to mention the VCL.

I''d love to demonstrate this, if I had the time and could find a VC coder who had the time. You could define a small Windows application to create in each of the languages including what the interface should like like and what functionality it should have. Both coders get to work producing the app and finally the code is posted, highlighting the manually-written code and outlining any drag-and-drop development done. Guaranteed, Delphi requires less work to do anything (anything I can think of, anyway).

Sorry if this sounds somewhat like a DirectX/OpenGL kind of opinionated rant. To each his own, but calling VC easier to use than Delphi boggles my mind. That''s what made me choose it in the first place - it''s quicker and easier than any language/environment I''ve ever seen. But then some people insist DirectX is easier than OpenGL, which I also don''t understand. Oh, well - you know what they say, opinions are like a--holes....

I think that VC++ is the best compiler for Windows development. But this is just my opinion. It has some stability problems, but I got rid of them by installing the Service Pack 4.

I have both

Borland''s compiler is ANSI compliant with a few small propriatary add-ons. Borland will compile MS code, if you don''t use MFC. MSVC++ doesn''t compile borland, without modifications. Borland uses Real and Protected mode pointers, MSVC++ doesn''t. Borland IS much faster, allmost twice as fast on my comp. Go with Borland if you want to use real C++.

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In that case, the only platform-specific things are WinMain and WndProc, which makes VCL practically useless.
Along side that, DirectX and OpenGL are just plain harder to use with BCB.

I hope you know about Kylix...(BCB&Delphi for Linux)
Think:- write OpenGL library type thing, then recompile for Linux support.
Cool, no?
THAT is why I use BCB (apart from the fact it is SOOO much easier to use ) - I love Linux, but cannot write code in it - no decent compiler. I cannot wait for Kylix....


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