How on earth do you "coders" stay with programming!? It''s so frustrating! I don''t get any of it and I just started! I''m still in text and that''s were I draw the line, It''s so boring!Help, I need encouragement and QUICK!!!!!!!!

programming is not for everyone, just like anything else in this world. if you don''t like then it''s probably not for you. don''t be a trend follower, be yourself.

What other departments of game making would you recommend for an extremelly anti-math/logic brain like mine?

you could always try your hand at some 3d modelling

If you''re anti-math/logic, then programming is SOOO wrong for you. You can try your hand at graphics and art if you have any talent for drawing, or writing if you have talent in that direction. Another area to try is level design...grab a FPS and the required mod utilities and have at it. If none of these grab your interest, you can also try music and sound editing.

Unfortunately, if you don''t have a passion for any of these, there are very few options for you in the field of game making. Not everyone has the talent (or the masochistic streak) to be in the game industry.

One vote in favor of maybe not giving up. I had a teacher of Mathematical Logic in college who would never give you a lower score for the course than you got on the final exam. His reasoning, which I agree with, is that the subject is one which you either ''get'' or don''t ''get''. AND that you can learn to ''get'' it.

Math and Logic are a particular way of thinking. Depending on your age, just because you don''t ''get'' it now doesn''t mean you never will. If you have a reason to really want to do it, hang in there. Maybe it will click eventually.

justj : agreed a 100%
I am an artistic brain, actually artistic guy, I did 3 years of Fine Arts lectures, and yet, as anti maths, anti school as I am, I am doing a Masters in Computing.
So, no, you *can* program if you have a motivation.

the question is why on earth do you want to code ?
there are hundreds and hundreds of computer people out there, and more coming in everyday. Do you think the world needs you ?
If so, then you''ll be OK, just relax, start small, and don''t think that because you are only starting you can''t do cool things.
Sure with text you could not do 3D graphics (actually ... you can), but you can do some pretty cool creative stuff.
Just try to do something with the limit you have at the moment.
You can do cool graphics on a 2 color display (I am thinking of the HP48G calculator), you can do cool games in text mode, etc.

What you must look at is not what you CANt do, rather what you can already do. And do it.
Don''t show it to the rest of the world, of course, unless it''s revolutionary, but at least, be proud that you can do somethig at your level.

Oh yeah ... and stop whining
It never ever helps, really.

youpla :-P

ps: how old are you BTW, and what are you learning ? Because if you start programming by reading the DirectX doc ... LOL

Don''t just sit here complaining, get out there and code!

If you want motivation, then ok, I will set you a challenge. Since you''re new, then I''ll make it pretty easy:
What you have to do is make a half operating system, half Quake8 3D engine . j/k heres the real one. I''ll make a few because I don''t exactly how ''newbie'' you are.

A) Make a function that takes a character array of unlimited elements to reverse the string. You can do it however.

B) A letter histogram. You must make a histogram class\function which takes in string from the standard input device of unlimited length, processes it, and displays a histogram of occurences of the letter to the standard output device.
i.e.

Enter in string: abc fdegg hyyyyt

A > *
B > *
C > *
D > *
E > *
F > *
G > **
H > *
T > *
Y > ****

The container can be a class, function or whatever...

C) Make a function that converts an integer into a 32-bit binary number.

These all have to be 100% ANSI\ISO compatible and they have to be console apps.

Have fun! I don''t know how hard these will be for you, but hopefully this will get you going and I''m sure you''l enjoy the problem solving.

When you''ve finsished one, post it on this thread, we''d all love to see your code!

If coding again doesn''t get you motivated, then maybe it''s just not right for you. If you really don''t enjoy it (I think your mad, or are we mad?) then just drop it. You can always be a sound
guy or something.

By the way, if you''ve started programming with game programming, then please, please drop games for now. You should concentrate on solving problems and learning languages before tackling games!

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Original post by Newbie101

It''s so frustrating!

This has been a problem in the IT community for a while. Monitors have suffered severely from it. I really wish they''d make a titanium monitor. I''ve got a really cool name for it: "The black box".

Seeya all



-=[ Lucas ]=-

The way I see coding is like this: The computer is dumb. It doesn''t know anything. All you have as a programmer is a base series of commands (at the lowest level) and those are mostly, add, subtract, multiply and divide (among others).

When a child starts finally learning some math in school (aside from counting), the teacher doesn''t just say, "Johnny, what''s x^2 * 5^3/2=?". Instead, they break it down into smaller parts and build up to that question.

Programming is the same way, only the higher-level languages encapsulates those smaller parts.

When I encounter a problem, this is my philosophy that helps me continue. "How do I explain this to a child?" Then once I can do that, I can encapsulate each step (most of the time) and write it in code. If I can''t encapsulate each step, then I write the code as I would explain it to a child. Sometimes, admittedly, the code is then very confusing (hence comments). I then go back later with a fresh mind and try to encapsulate it again so it isn''t so confusing to follow.


Just my two cents worth. Don''t give up! You''ll get it.

Regards,
Jumpster

quote: Original post by Newbie101

How on earth do you "coders" stay with programming!? It''s so frustrating! I don''t get any of it and I just started! I''m still in text and that''s were I draw the line, It''s so boring!Help, I need encouragement and QUICK!!!!!!!!

if you have no desire to create. then you will have no desire to code.

-cmaker