I liked Developer X2 better. It was Forte before sun bought it and it wasn''t a resource hog. I could at least run it on my 333MHz machine. Forte? no way, it takes a year to boot. I didn''t know about that javaw.exe thing either.

I downloaded to see what it was like and I only had 48 mb of ram so it stopped responding often and it took forever to load a menu. (2 mins at least)

Oh yeah and Visual Age for Java is the best I think.

Forte is a pig, but it has it its good points. NetBeans definately did a good job with Developer X2, that''s why I got Forte to begin with.

Visual Age is the best I''ve used for visual composition with beans. I haven''t got my hands on an Enterprise edition of JBuilder though, so there might be better.

Glad I could help with the javaw thing.

ManaSink

Forte runs even better if you''ve got a dual processor system. We''ve got dual PIII 450MHz and dual PIII 600MHz machines here at work, all with 256MB of RAM, and Forte runs just fine. I''ve heard of people with faster single CPU''s and the same amount of RAM having performance problems. But Forte definitely takes advantage of multiple CPU''s!

So how do you make theses types of applications? do you just make a regular applet and run it in javaw.exe or is there a entirly different api?

You don''t make an applet. What you do is you put a "main" method in one of the classes

public static void main(String args[])
{
}

then you run it using the "java" command. The args array are all the command line arguments that appear after the name of the program separated by spaces. So if you have a main method in the class MyClass.java you''d run it like this:

java MyClass

and anything you type after "MyClass" would appear in the args array. You can set up a .bat file (or a shell script in UNIX) to run it, which is usually the best thing to do.

You could also write a little Windows program to execute it, but when all is said & done you have to run it in a Java Virtual Machine (which is what the "java" command does).

Steve I don't think you read this entire post did you? I am talking about javaw.exe applications.

Edited by - ARCHIGAMER on July 5, 2000 11:47:46 AM

I did, but I must have misunderstood what you were asking.

Forte, for example, is not a Windows application. There's a little executable that you can run, but all it does is start the jvm and run the Java application.



Edited by - SteveMeister on July 5, 2000 12:23:09 PM

accroding to manasink you can make windowed applications in javaw.exe what I am asking is how do yu make these type of windoed applications that aren''t command line or run in a broswer.