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NO MORE HELP WANTED THREADS

Started by August 24, 2003 05:57 PM
20 comments, last by digisoap 21 years, 5 months ago
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Original post by Avatar God
And as I recall, Dave made it clear that mods don''t have to explain their actions on the boards. He continued to say that you shouldn''t complain about it on the boards, but to perhaps try e-mailing the mod. Makes sense to me and saves the trouble of people getting aggravated when they read your post.


Yes, putting a lid on any form of dissent is always the best solution. All hail the holy moderators.
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yup i agree help wanted and off topic threads shouldnt be here. there has been an influx(check the big word) over the last month.

[edited by - thedodger on August 25, 2003 5:41:37 AM]
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Original post by Raloth
He could have at least explained why he feels it should be somewhere else. I admit I misread it at first but I did edit my post once I reread his reply. And I''ve noticed you are almost always one of the first people to start criticizing others...


Is it bad to provide critisism? Critisism is generally a helpful thing.
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To answer everyone:

Other than Raloth''s request for programming assistance, which belongs in one of the programming forums, all other threads I closed belonged in the help wanted forum. Could I have moved them? Yes. But I wanted everyone to get the point.

Obviously, the point has been made.

That being said, cowsarenotevil is correct. Insulting people who DONATE their FREE TIME to help manage, run, and otherwise maintain these forums and their integrity isn''t a good idea. One, it shows a complete lack of respect for the work that goes into the site, and two, it''s just plain rude. Do you insult your apartment manager (assuming you''re old enough to live on your own, and if not, replace "apartment manager" with "parents") when they tell you to stop leaving trash in the hallway? Trash attracts bugs - bugs in this case being trolls and other lesser forms of forum posters. We, the moderators, are currently dropping a bug-bomb on the forums, cleaning out the carcasses, and making sure that those who enjoy the forums and use them correctly have an enjoyable, informative, and above all friendly experience.

While one or two "I''m a programmer/designer/whatever and I can''t draw and I need an artist for my way-cool PONG clone" threads aren''t nearly as bad as some threads that have recently sprung up (and been closed) in other forums, they can be pretty annoying when they happen often and show up in the wrongs place - such as, say, the Visual Arts Forum. If there wasn''t a Help Wanted forum, this wouldn''t be an issue. However, there IS, believe it or not, a Help Wanted forum, and that''s the appropriate place to post such requests.

If you don''t like that, your choices are quite simple: suck it up or leave.

Arlid: That was uncalled for. It''s simply common courtesy to go directly to the person you''re having an issue with than airing dirty laundry to the whole forum. Most of the time, it''s also a much faster way to resolve unsavory situations, because when you start posting about people in such a public place, not only are you opening yourself (and GameDev.Net) up to legal action, you''re also increasing the chances of starting a flame war, unnecessarily offending someone, and coming off a two-year old who didn''t get the exact Go-Bot he wanted. This time, I''m simply going to say, "don''t do it again." However, should you choose to continue with your tone and continue to show no appreciation for the aforementioned work that goes into running this site and the forums, I''ll have no choice but to put you on probation, which will be swiftly followed by a ban should you then ignore your probation. Some may say this is harsh - I, and many other moderators, believe it is necessary to do ensure that, as I''ve said, the forums remain a place where everyone - from a 10yr-old aspiring game programmer/artists, to a seasoned game industry vet, of which there are a number who visit and post to these forums (keep that in mind while disrespecting an authority figure - even game developers have a chain of command tha must be followed) - and we will use what some may believe to be harsh measures to do this.

thedodger: Yes, there have been. This is, we (the moderators, not the "royal we") believe this is due to the bored, rather uncreative and most definitely immature kiddies (of all ages) being out of school. Once they''re back in, hopefully they''ll be too busy to continue degrading the quality of our forums. Should they continue to ignore the rules and the obvious (e.g. there''s no need to put it in the FAQ; it should be obvious to all that "help wanted" posts should go in the Help Wanted forum), the moderators will continue to put them on probation, ban them, and otherwise prevent them from doing so.

Anyone who has anything constructive to respond with, feel free to do so - your suggestions are always appreciated - as long as you don''t suggest to allow such posts. Otherwise, don''t bother, because your comments will be either ignored totally or disciplinary action may be taken against you on this message board should your post be of an offensive nature. Before anyone asks, yes, I decide what''s of an offensive nature in this forum. Fortunately, I have a pretty thick skin, but remember that you all have already been warned: try not to insult the mods, even if they deserve it. If they do, contact either that particular moderator or one of the site admins OFF OF THE FORUM.

Hopefully I''ve made myself clear.

-Nick "digisoap" Robalik
Web & Print Design, 2D & 3D Illustration and Animation, Game Design
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nick@digital-soabox.com
-Nick "digisoap" RobalikWeb & Print Design, 2D & 3D Illustration and Animation, Game Designhttp://www.digital-soapbox.com[email=nick@digital-soapbox.com]nick@digital-soabox.com[/email]
Well perhaps a list of sites with free image/texture resources could be added to the forum FAQ? The current state of the FAQ is, uh, ''minimal'' to say the least.
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Original post by OrangyTang
Well perhaps a list of sites with free image/texture resources could be added to the forum FAQ? The current state of the FAQ is, uh, ''minimal'' to say the least.



I also think that would be a good idea.
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Original post by glassJAw
quote:
Original post by OrangyTang
Well perhaps a list of sites with free image/texture resources could be added to the forum FAQ? The current state of the FAQ is, uh, ''minimal'' to say the least.


I also think that would be a good idea.


The problem with that is that these resources move from time to time. i.e. no longer exist.

I am going to assume you are a new comer to the the web browsing part of the internet. If you visit this page www.google.com, you can type into the edit box beneath the banner what ever it is you want to search for.

Here I''ll help you out.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=free+textures&btnG=Google+Search

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I''d just like to say that I wasn''t asking anything about programming. I can do the programming. I was asking about what sorts of things a model needs, which is 100% visual arts.
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Original post by DeltaVee
The problem with that is that these resources move from time to time. i.e. no longer exist.

I am going to assume you are a new comer to the the web browsing part of the internet. If you visit this page www.google.com, you can type into the edit box beneath the banner what ever it is you want to search for.


Your wit astounds me Sure resources move or dissapear, but theres plenty of major sites that host art that aren''t in danger of vanishing overnight. Even if its copyrighted or commercial, sometimes someone just wants some ideas to set them going.

People who are mainly programmers don''t have such an extensive list of bookmarks, if it wasn''t for peoples posts on here i probably wouldn''t have stopped at places like polycount in my random browsing.

Just because resources change doesn''t mean links can be put to them. Just because search engines exist doesn''t mean that lists cannot be compiled.

A forum FAQ is a good idea. I''ll start working on an initial version. I''ll also create a post where information requests to the FAQ can be made, and where people can make posts of information that will be considered as additions to this initial version.

Due to the sheer volume of information such a FAQ c an contain, don''t expect this first version to have everything - that''s while I''ll be taking suggestions and possible additions. Also don''t expect it to be up tomorrow, as I can only dedicate a small amount of time per day to its development, as I can''t let it interfere with the continuation and growth of my business.



-Nick "digisoap" Robalik
Web & Print Design, 2D & 3D Illustration and Animation, Game Design
http://www.digital-soapbox.com
nick@digital-soabox.com

-Nick "digisoap" RobalikWeb & Print Design, 2D & 3D Illustration and Animation, Game Designhttp://www.digital-soapbox.com[email=nick@digital-soapbox.com]nick@digital-soabox.com[/email]

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