FreeBSD 5.1
I downloaded it this afternoon, just need to burn it to cd and then its install time! YAY!!@(#)@*#()!*()!!
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Yes, yes it is. I think as soon as I get back to Austin (i.e., my fast internet connection), I''m going to download it and make an older computer of mine a BSD server.
hi.....again
There are some many directory in the ftp site...... that i have no idea where or which directory allow me to download the whole FreeBSD OS.........
So can some one tell me which directory in the ftp site...??
BTW, does anyone know where can i find some thing called sysinstall?
Thanks
[edited by - johnc82 on June 13, 2003 1:51:06 PM]
There are some many directory in the ftp site...... that i have no idea where or which directory allow me to download the whole FreeBSD OS.........
So can some one tell me which directory in the ftp site...??
BTW, does anyone know where can i find some thing called sysinstall?
Thanks
[edited by - johnc82 on June 13, 2003 1:51:06 PM]
:-)
The ISO files are found under the i386 ISO folder under the 5.1 folder.
Just download the ISOs and create new CDs with them. Sysinstall is included.
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Just download the ISOs and create new CDs with them. Sysinstall is included.
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Linux and BSD suffer somewhat in that most of the active user base suffers from an extreme sense of elitism. I am going to try and avoid sounding like that, as I am by no means a Unix guru.
The primary strength of Microsoft products rely in their ease of use. Things just work, hardware is just configured, etc. This same strength leads to its two biggest pitfalls (from a technology standpoint, lets not discuss ethics here). This ease of use must support lots and lots and lots of hardware and software to be useful for everyone, and that leads to more conflicts which can reduce stability. Additionally, this ease of use shoulders the burden of control, which takes it away from the user. It is more difficult to tweak an off the shelf MS product than an open-source product like Linux or BSD.
Linux and BSD tend to fit the flipside--much more difficult to use and get working, but much easier to fine tune and control every aspect. This will not be an easy task for a someone new to these OSs.
That said, you really need to take it upon yourself to find the answer to most of your questions before asking them when dealing with these products. Google is your friend of friends, and the BSD documentation is really quite good. Mailing lists and newsgroups are great.
Many, many newbies ask the same basic questions repeatedly, and it grates on the power users (or those who answer the questions). People are extremely helpful when you are trying to figure out wierd things or can show that you have done your homework and exhausted your research before asking. But by not showing this, people tend to flame mercilessly or just write RTFM RTFM RTFM!!! which can turn you away from using the free OSs.
On the FreeBSD page, there are plentiful links to many things, most notably a newbies link and an installation guide for the latest technology release. You really need to be able to do the most basic research to have a chance in hell of enjoying these operating systems in the future.
So, again, I am not trying to sound elitist, but just to welcome you to this community and warn you of what lies ahead. These are great systems to work with. I don''t want to turn you off at all, just give you the mindset thats going to be necessary to getthings running and to get help from people. Also, its often much faster just to look around for the info. Goodluck with things.
The primary strength of Microsoft products rely in their ease of use. Things just work, hardware is just configured, etc. This same strength leads to its two biggest pitfalls (from a technology standpoint, lets not discuss ethics here). This ease of use must support lots and lots and lots of hardware and software to be useful for everyone, and that leads to more conflicts which can reduce stability. Additionally, this ease of use shoulders the burden of control, which takes it away from the user. It is more difficult to tweak an off the shelf MS product than an open-source product like Linux or BSD.
Linux and BSD tend to fit the flipside--much more difficult to use and get working, but much easier to fine tune and control every aspect. This will not be an easy task for a someone new to these OSs.
That said, you really need to take it upon yourself to find the answer to most of your questions before asking them when dealing with these products. Google is your friend of friends, and the BSD documentation is really quite good. Mailing lists and newsgroups are great.
Many, many newbies ask the same basic questions repeatedly, and it grates on the power users (or those who answer the questions). People are extremely helpful when you are trying to figure out wierd things or can show that you have done your homework and exhausted your research before asking. But by not showing this, people tend to flame mercilessly or just write RTFM RTFM RTFM!!! which can turn you away from using the free OSs.
On the FreeBSD page, there are plentiful links to many things, most notably a newbies link and an installation guide for the latest technology release. You really need to be able to do the most basic research to have a chance in hell of enjoying these operating systems in the future.
So, again, I am not trying to sound elitist, but just to welcome you to this community and warn you of what lies ahead. These are great systems to work with. I don''t want to turn you off at all, just give you the mindset thats going to be necessary to getthings running and to get help from people. Also, its often much faster just to look around for the info. Goodluck with things.
The Tyr project is here.
If you are new to FreeBSD, 5.1 is not the way to go: the 5.x tree isn''t considered stable/ready for production yet, and a fair number of things don''t work (the ''Early Adopters Guide, http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/early-adopter.html goes into detail about why this is the case. Basically, FreeBSD has three branches, -CURRENT, -RELEASE and -STABLE. -CURRENT is the latest bleeding edge stuff, and isn''t always guaranteed to even compile. -RELEASE represents each packaged release (for which a .ISO is made), and -STABLE is the current workhorse release). Unfortunately, if you aren''t familiar with cvsup, finding your way through bits of a semi-broken setup, etc. then you may wish to avoid -CURRENT - 5.1 is still in that category, and isn''t expected to go -STABLE until 5.2 or maybe 5.3.
4.8 is still a great release (I have it on one desktop, and about 40 servers that I maintain!), and has the advantage of a) having uptodate documentation, and b) being very, very, very stable.
Read about it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/announce.html
Download the ISO here:
http://ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.8/
Learn to use it here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html
Also, some great sources of help are the mailing lists (be warned, though - some of these are very high traffic):
http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list
The FreeBSD community is sometimes regarded as being less friendly than the Linux community. I don''t really think that this is the case; it is somewhat less tolerant of poorly asked questions (RTM isn''t that uncommon an answer, although you will generally also get a link to the documentation - and the docs are in much better shape than for any Linux distro I''ve ever seen), but it also has a core of very helpful, friendly people. As long as you stay polite, ask detailed questions, and try to read the docs first you''ll be fine. I''ve had members of the core team directly email me (offering to let me call them, in a couple of cases) to help with urgent problems that weren''t covered in the handbook.
4.8 is still a great release (I have it on one desktop, and about 40 servers that I maintain!), and has the advantage of a) having uptodate documentation, and b) being very, very, very stable.
Read about it here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/announce.html
Download the ISO here:
http://ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.8/
Learn to use it here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html
Also, some great sources of help are the mailing lists (be warned, though - some of these are very high traffic):
http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list
The FreeBSD community is sometimes regarded as being less friendly than the Linux community. I don''t really think that this is the case; it is somewhat less tolerant of poorly asked questions (RTM isn''t that uncommon an answer, although you will generally also get a link to the documentation - and the docs are in much better shape than for any Linux distro I''ve ever seen), but it also has a core of very helpful, friendly people. As long as you stay polite, ask detailed questions, and try to read the docs first you''ll be fine. I''ve had members of the core team directly email me (offering to let me call them, in a couple of cases) to help with urgent problems that weren''t covered in the handbook.
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