Hi. Today I got picked up a copy of Redhat Linux 8.0. I tried to install it on my old&busted 233MHz Pentium MMX and I ran into problems. I can set up the installation all well, but as it installs the packages I select, it always errors and crashes.... like... every time. I even tried an older version of Redhat I got from the Redhat Lin Bible and a Mandrake version I had, but they all do the same thing... 3/4 the ways through install, the install crashes and it dies. I''ve gotten it to successfully install a few times in the past, but now it refuses T.t any ideas what I''m doing wrong? "You TK''ed my chicken!"

Have you considered the possibility of a faulty CDROM drive? I had that sort of problem as well, changed out my old drive and everything went smooth from then on. Just a thought...

[edited by - Silent Error on December 29, 2002 8:40:54 PM]

Impossible! Linux doesn''t crash... I read it on slashdot and zdnet. It must be a hardware problem.

loL. Actually, KDE froze all the time when I ran it all day before. Seriously, I tried to look for excuses as to why it happened... but I blamed it on the year-old chocolate milk stains on the front of the case.

However, I will try a new CD ROM drive. If that doesn''t work, I''ll just have to shun Linux forever =-( Please, though, I really don''t want to do that.

"You TK''ed my chicken!"

How many partitions do you have on your harddrive? Maybe the wear and tear of installing/uninstalling programs has your hdd days numbered! Check all your compatibility issues. I am sure a nice new 80 gig hdd ($80+)would run Red Hat just fine.


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Well KDE is an app not linux so it still stands that apps may crash but not linux! :D

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Well, I do only have a 2GB HD and if I ever put together the money, I probably will get a new HD.

My computer actually has a long, drawn out, bloody history of applications crashing, freezing, and just dying on me for no reason. When I still had Windows on it, it would run fine until I tried to run Counter-Strike, and then it would just *poof* go black and restart itself!

However, it wouldn''t always crash immediately, so my guess is it might have something to do with overheating. Windows would run fine almost indefinately until I started CS... then the processor probably said to itself, "oh shyt, that''s too much work" and the computer restarted.

Does this sound like it might be a likely culprit in this mystery? I''d hate to go out and "waste" 80$ on a new HD (actually, I just don''t have the money), but if I could just install a new 6$ fan and get Lin to run, then I''d be a happy hacker.

"You TK''ed my chicken!"

quote: Original post by Tac-Tics
Well, I do only have a 2GB HD and if I ever put together the money, I probably will get a new HD.

My computer actually has a long, drawn out, bloody history of applications crashing, freezing, and just dying on me for no reason. When I still had Windows on it, it would run fine until I tried to run Counter-Strike, and then it would just *poof* go black and restart itself!

However, it wouldn''t always crash immediately, so my guess is it might have something to do with overheating. Windows would run fine almost indefinately until I started CS... then the processor probably said to itself, "oh shyt, that''s too much work" and the computer restarted.

Does this sound like it might be a likely culprit in this mystery? I''d hate to go out and "waste" 80$ on a new HD (actually, I just don''t have the money), but if I could just install a new 6$ fan and get Lin to run, then I''d be a happy hacker.

"You TK''ed my chicken!"

It would seem kind of strange that any installation of any OS would just die because of a bad hard drive, or cd rom drive. Usually if that''s the problem you will get read or write errors.... Not unexpected crashes.

I had the exact same problem with one of my machines... You wouldn''t happen to have a PC Chips mother board would you? Well either way, I screwed around for nearly six months in my off time trying to figure out why the only OS that would properly install on my AMD K6-233 was windows 95 or 98. Not eve 98 SE would install properly. And even though 98 would install, the machine regularly crashed at random seeming intervals.

I tried everything, turning off all non-essential devices like serial ports, sound, etc. I switched memory, switched processors, and all add-in cards to no avail.

I finally decided that the problem was the motherboard, and indeed, all of the same hardware worked fine on another motherboard.

While your problem may not be the motherboard, the only times I''ve seen outright random failures are with a bad chip, bad memory, or with a bad motherboard. If it''s anything else that''s bad, you should get an error of some sort, but not random reboots or lockups.

Just my 2 cents.

-- Aaron




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Just for the hell of it, go to www.memtest86.com, get the program, and let it run. Faulty memory can be a very good excuse.

Edit: The next one that comes along saying "I'll shun Linux because I can't get it to run stable", I'm gonna hit with a log or something. Especially if they've been running Windoze before. And smileys won't be an excuse.

[edited by - Shadowdancer on December 30, 2002 2:56:16 PM]

quote: Original post by Tac-Tics
Well, I do only have a 2GB HD and if I ever put together the money, I probably will get a new HD.

This is the reason Red Hat keeps crashing 3/4 of the way through the install. With Red Hat 7.0, I could barely fit it onto my 3.0Gig harddrive, and would often be running with it 90% full, when checking with a DF. I am sure Red Hat 8 would need more space, and the GUIs have gotten quite a bit larger. Large enough that it took me two weeks of installing freeBSD, to roll my own distro with it, to make it fit onto my harddrive. I ended up with using KDE, with the library files for GNOME (to run those games), and skimming down my install to what I would be using as the basics, which were mostly Web Browsers (Mozilla, Opera, Galeon, emacs/w3, links, lynx, Konquorer, and a few others), Perl, GCC, gtar/bzip2/gzip, XChat, XBill and a few other games... with barely enough room, should I decide to install either Apache2 or Apache 1.3 with only a couple modules.

If I had fun fitting this little on a 3Gig harddrive, you would have even more fun fitting it onto a 2Gig harddrive.