Hey! Don''t hijack my thread!

Most of the deep down kernel differences I don''t really know. All I know is what I''ve seen. The main difference between all the *nix''s and Windows is Windows isn''t free.

Linux itself is just a kernel, but most of the time when you say "i have Linux" you have the Linux kernel and all the other stuff that goes with it, like X and KDE or Gnome. Everything builds on top of everything. It''s not like Windows where its all or nothing, in other words.

And the *nix''s don''t have as easy (brain dead some may say) installation of software and drivers as Windows.

That''s my quick list.

sorry i''ll post in another thread....

apt
dpkg
YaST2

Red Hat should swallow their pride and adopt apt-rpm.

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Original post by DC_Tsunami
Anything that reduces the user hostility of the user environment seems like a great idea to me!

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FYI: normally, on a good system settings, users can''t install Drivers. Only admins can.








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FYI: normally, on a good system settings, users can''t install Drivers. Only admins can.

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Unfortunately, as we push for Linux and other free *nixes to make inroads onto the desktop, the admin and the user are increasingly the same non-technical person.

Could you shrink that sig? Thanks.

well, sure... there''s apt-get, dpkg, YaST2 (yeahoo ! graphical installation ! let''s install windows !), and more...

but there''s not always a package for every distribution of everey program, especially the newest version...

so sometimes i just have to install from source...
let''s take a look at licq. no debian-package available (not even an old version)... so i needed to install from source...
i think everyone already had (at least once) problems, when installing from source... one might be able to fix the first 10 errors, but at some point, you don''t know what to do anymore.
and that''s BAD !
until yesterday, when i at last managed to install it from source, i had to use mICQ, a pretty uncomfortable console-icq-client (there was a package for that at debian.org)... everyone got, what i want to say ?

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but there''s not always a package for every distribution of everey program, especially the newest version...

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autoconf

And if there isn''t even that, then the package isn''t worth installing (thinking like the average computer user). Email the author and ask for a package, or use one of the many available tools to create one yourself (which you can then email to the author along with creationg instructions).

But all that isn''t Granny friendly. THAT''S my point. There''s nearly always a way to do something now, but it usually isn''t easy.

I compile most everything I install after first install by source

I like it that way

But seriously, the BEST package management out there is FreeBSD''s.

Its huge. Its compile from source. It does dependancies automatically. packages can be removed easily. You can cvsup your ports and just pkg_version to see if everything is up-to-date.

dream userspace. but it doesn''t have a linux kernel. Oh well, slackware it is for now.

that FreeBSD-thing sounds great... that would be a great thing to have for Linux !

i don''t really want to have a granny-friendly OS. in fact, microsoft''s (bad) attempt to make an OS granny-friendly caused much of the trouble i''ve had with windows... (not all of it, but mostly...)

i just don''t like those unresolved dependencies & no-info-about-needed-packages policy...