Does anyone or has anyone used ximian? I thought it was a window manager for gnome and I installed it but it replace my version of gnome and it didnt have links to any of the software packages that SuSE came with, it only had some of the stuff it came with. I like the version of gnome but I dont like that i dont know were all my programs went. I''m really new at linux and I dont know were the software was installed so I cant get to it from the console.

Ximian Gnome isn't a window manager, it is basically a bundled easy-to-install Gnome. Gnome isn't a window manager either, it is a desktop environment composed of a core set of libraries all working together. Gnome can use pretty much any window manager you want though, window managers would be like

Window Maker
Blackbox
Sawfish
Afterstep

Note that KDE (www.kde.org) isn't a window manager either, it is another desktop environment.

A common set of libraries, rules, etc for a common desktop is what the environments are aiming after.

Ximian Gnome includes an installer that installs a lot of packages not directly related to Gnome but are side apps, like Gaim (aim client), Abiword (word processor), Evolution (e-mail client). The installer can also maintain and update the installations when asked to.

If you don't use Ximian Gnome, the two other ways of still maintaining the entire thing is either by compiling Gnome from sources (believe me, it's hell), or maintaining the latest binary version packages that the distribution hands out.

Most all programs are installed in /usr/local/bin

You can use the find command to find any file, the syntax is

find [directory] -name [file]

ex:

find /usr -name perl

[edited by - i8degrees on March 17, 2002 3:44:23 AM]

If you''re just trying to find your binaries, do which binary (binary = gcc, perl, kde, etc)

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Original post by i8degrees
Ximian Gnome isn''t a window manager, it is basically a bundled easy-to-install Gnome. Gnome isn''t a window manager either, it is a desktop environment composed of a core set of libraries all working together. Gnome can use pretty much any window manager you want though, window managers would be like

Window Maker
Blackbox
Sawfish
Afterstep

Note that KDE (www.kde.org) isn''t a window manager either, it is another desktop environment.

A common set of libraries, rules, etc for a common desktop is what the environments are aiming after.

Ximian Gnome includes an installer that installs a lot of packages not directly related to Gnome but are side apps, like Gaim (aim client), Abiword (word processor), Evolution (e-mail client). The installer can also maintain and update the installations when asked to.

If you don''t use Ximian Gnome, the two other ways of still maintaining the entire thing is either by compiling Gnome from sources (believe me, it''s hell), or maintaining the latest binary version packages that the distribution hands out.

Most all programs are installed in /usr/local/bin

You can use the find command to find any file, the syntax is

find [directory] -name [file]

ex:

find /usr -name perl

[edited by - i8degrees on March 17, 2002 3:44:23 AM]

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See well actually I knew most of that, its just that i installed ximian over the version of gnome that came with suse. When I did, It removed all of the links to programs that came with SuSE, and replaced them with the stuff that came with ximian.

that was my problem. I ended up reinstalling SuSE altogether...
(yes, I know that probably wasnt neccisary)

Actually all your shortcuts were still there, just in the Ximain Menu, they were turned off. If you opened up the Gnome Control Panel and gone to panel, you would have seen a bunch of "Menus" listed. One of them should have been "Distribution". If you turned that one on, the original menu items would have returned.

Kevin

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