Ok, so I''ve decided to mess around with AfterStep and Window Maker... But when using GNOME, it really screws up the desktop. So I decided to try using the WM''s with KDE and see what happens. However, I have no idea how you change the WM in KDE. Anyone else know? rm -rf /bin/laden

I think I understand what you are trying to say...

KDE''s window manager is called kwin, Gnome''s is gnome-wm. They should have been executed already if your desktop looks like KDE or Gnome (The window borders, buttons, etc.).

You shouldn''t be able to run two window managers at the same time. You can however run one window manager (like blackbox/window maker) and the kde-panel or kde programs (just not kwin or gnome-wm).

You say you are running Gnome with Window Maker and Afterstep and it screws up your desktop. Well, I assume you are doing things wrong, so I''ll tell you how to run AfterStep and Windowmaker or any other window manager in X11.

I''m not sure what distro you are using, but you should be able to do this:
edit your ~/.xinitrc (if it''s not there make a new one)
add the line:
exec window_manager
For Window Maker I know it is:
exec wmaker
For Afterstep I''d assume it is:
exec afterstep
I personally use blackbox so it is:
exec blackbox

Now make sure you ~/.xinitrc is readable and executable by a user you want to use X with; if it is not, do this:
chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc

That should be it. Now just press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X.

If you use gnome, I think there is some sort of gnome config program that configures gdm for you to start other window managers. I think it''s called gdmconfig

I think on Red Hat systems .xinitrc is .xsession since Red-Hat''s scripts check that file and not .xinitrc (I''m not 100% sure though, but I do remeber having trouble getting Red Hat to use .xinitrc but .xsession worked).

If you still have trouble, there are some scripts in /etc/X11 you may want to look at.

I personally run my own self-made distro. I followed the instructions from LFS (Linux From Scratch)), but I did deviate quite heavily from their instructions to get it just right...In fact I''m working on another one right now.

I hope I was of some help.

First of all, I use Slackware.

Secondly, I'll tell you exactly what happens to screw up GNOME. GNOME uses the Sawfish WM by default, and you can switch the WM by using the GNOME control panel. When I change it to either Afterstep or Window Maker (both of which are NeXT-based, for those of you who don't know), it makes everything go to the background, including the panels. I don't quite understand this, when they're supposed to be GNOME-compliant WM's. I'll try editing the .xinitrc file, though. Hopefully KDE won't throw a fit

rm -rf /bin/laden

Edited by - CmndrM on March 9, 2002 3:55:36 PM

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Original post by CmndrM
Ok, so I''ve decided to mess around with AfterStep and Window Maker... But when using GNOME, it really screws up the desktop. So I decided to try using the WM''s with KDE and see what happens. However, I have no idea how you change the WM in KDE. Anyone else know?

rm -rf /bin/laden

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I don''t know of any way to change the Window Manager when using KDE, you can do it with GNOME pretty easily( in the Gnome Control Panel ). Don''t take GNOME for a Window Manager though, it''s not, it''s a desktop manager which runs on top of the Sawfish window manger as a default. Although, when using GNOME, I prefer to use Enlightenment as the WM. Then again, these are my prefs, might not be yours...




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Original post by Floppy
I think I understand what you are trying to say...

Gnome''s is gnome-wm.

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Wrong, gnome''s default WM is Sawfish...




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Wrong, gnome''s default WM is Sawfish...

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You are right, but gnome-wm is a script that gets called to load the window manager you want to use with gnome. You don''t have to use sawfish to use gnome, that''s just their default wm.

Once again, to change window managers you have to edit the ~/.xinitrc (or the default X scripts). Xfree86 looks at .xinitrc during its initialization process and if you add an:
exec
to the bottom X will load the wm.

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Original post by Floppy

You are right, but gnome-wm is a script that gets called to load the window manager you want to use with gnome. You don't have to use sawfish to use gnome, that's just their default wm.

Once again, to change window managers you have to edit the ~/.xinitrc (or the default X scripts). Xfree86 looks at .xinitrc during its initialization process and if you add an:
exec
to the bottom X will load the wm.

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Read my other post...



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[edited by - cyberdrek on March 15, 2002 7:59:10 AM]

if you want a fast window manager, you could use enlightment or KWM (the KDE wm). But englightment is only an earlier beta release.