When coding for Windows AYE but I primary work with Solaris and Linux so no not really,
I hate MS products but I must admit that the MSVC IDE is very good but I do not like the compiler that much.

It has some odd scope isues

for(int i =0; i < n; i++)
{
//some code
}

for(int i=0; i < m; i++)
{
//some code
}

will give you an error, maby this is the way it should be but in gcc a var defined in a for loop scope is limited to that loop, that is the way I do it in many of my programs so when I port it over to windows that is anoying. it is not really treabul but there are a fer little thing that get on my nerves with the MSVC compiler. But I will say that it is a really nice IDE.

Anyway just my opion.

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Original post by Validus
maby this is the way it should be

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No, it''s not. According to Microsoft it''s like that for backwards compatibility.

WTF?

I don''t want to piss on anyones bonfire here ... but VC++ is a programming language ... NOT an IDE. IDE mean Intergrated Development Environment. This is a framework in which to program several languages.

Will someone please tell me what the original question was trying to ask? It''s almost like asking ''who uses windows to write windows software''.

I use Visual Studio 6, but i can''t do much in it.. I can''t get started.

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Original post by Shag
I don''t want to piss on anyones bonfire here ... but VC++ is a programming language ... NOT an IDE. IDE mean Intergrated Development Environment. This is a framework in which to program several languages.

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Visual C++ is NOT a language. Visual C++ is an IDE, linker, and a C/C++ compiler that comes with most ANSI C and C++ headers the Win32 API and a number of other things (other libraries, debugger, et cetera).

Well NULL you made my point for me, VC++ is not really a languge it is a compilers and linker the languge is ISO c++ (in theory any way ) but I think that origanl poster I asume ment Visual Studio when he said IDE.

The point I was making is that the Visual Studio IDE isn''t limited to C or C++ (which are languages). The compiler and other tools are seperate apps which are accessable through the IDE - but they are not part of it. NMAKE for example has nothing to do with the IDE.

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Original post by Shag
The point I was making is that the Visual Studio IDE isn''t limited to C or C++ (which are languages). The compiler and other tools are seperate apps which are accessable through the IDE - but they are not part of it. NMAKE for example has nothing to do with the IDE.

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If you''d said that I would have agreed with you .

LoserPrime(cont.)

Keep Fireing Assholes...

lmao

This is really sad - possibly the most pointless post in here for ages, and yet it's one of the biggest!

Edited by - Shag on February 4, 2002 12:22:32 AM