Where's the love???

I-Shaolin · 2000-01-24T19:24:32

Why is there so much animosity here? Recently, I posted a response in one of the topics. I was trying to be helpful, but truthful, and before I knew it, I was being cussed at like I was the walking incarnation of evil. I have no malice toward ANYONE here at GameDev. I try to answer every topic in the forom that I feel I can be helpful on, because I wish to help, nothing more. Yet, it seems that if you don''t tell someone exactly what they want to hear, you are somehow insulting them. Since I know this sounds vague, I will explain. There was a post on the difficulty on getting into the game industry. I mentioned that in today''s world, you can''t expect to get a job with a professional game company if you haven''t fully developed as a programmer. I continued by mentioning that I had spent years developing myself as a programmer and a game programmer. I worked for a degree in CS, I worked with a company developing Windows software for three years, and throughout it all, I have constantly tried to refine my understanding of game programming and theory. For me, this work has been fruitful, and I believe that this is the type of disipline and dedication it takes to get a job in the game industry today. The game industry is no longer the hackers world it used to be. There is too much money involved for most companies to hire an individual who has no proven abilities. If you don''t have previous professional experience, then you are going to have to shine to get into the industry, becuase the compitition for the entry level jobs is fiercer than ever. The point I was trying to make is that if you truly want to get into the industry, then don''t disillusion yourself. It''s going to take years of work, and if you''re not willing to do it, then someone else will. Yet, all I recieved after that post was spite and hatefulness. I could have just said that anyone can walk into the industry with little ablility, or I could have just ignored the post and let the people who are willing to put in the work wander aimlessly around with no one giving them the proper direction. I love game programming. I have loved games and the idea of making games since I was a child. I learned early on that it was going to take this kind of dedication to get into the industry. I had the will, and I had the direction. It paid off for me, and I want everyone who loves game programming as much as I do to have this same chance. I don''t feel that I did anything wrong here. I was just trying to help people who I thought would appriciate the help. I guess I was wrong.

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Started by I-Shaolin January 21, 2000 07:17 PM

11 comments, last by I-Shaolin 25 years, 1 month ago

LackOfKnack

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January 24, 2000 06:54 PM

I agree with everything said here so far, except for one thing:

quote:
Original post by I-Shaolin
...you couldn''t just walk up to Microsoft and start working on Windows if you can barely program C...

... are you sure about that?

Sometimes, though, it seems as though that was how it was made...

Lack

Lack
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msn12b

390

January 24, 2000 07:01 PM

Re: Getting a job at Micro$oft

DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed here are my own and should in no way be misconstrued as those of my employer.

To be perfectly honest, if you have the skill to work at Micro$oft, advanced knowledge of a particular language is not an absolute requirement. I.e. if you have natural talent and can demonstrate an ability to learn quickly and effectively, you can get a job with minimal knowledge of any particular language here. However, for the work we do, it''s difficult to learn the issues that arise from application development without intermediate to advanced knowledge of C/C++.

Having said that, don''t expect to get a job here just because you think you''re a kick-ass coder.

MSN

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I-Shaolin

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January 24, 2000 07:24 PM

To respond to Gorky''s question...

I do have to ask, "how do you find the time to respond to so many of the posts?"

Well, this is a perfect example of insomnia coupled with some free time. I really enjoy posted responses here. It''s nice to be able to help, and it''s also a good way to keep your skills up. After all, the best way to learn something is to teach it.

Sadly, I don''t know how long I''ll be able to keep up this pace. I recently started a new job, and that will soon consume most if not all of my time. I don''t plan to leave the forum however. I just may not be able to be as active in at as I have been.

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