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Potentual new concept

Donnie Watson · 2015-11-08T23:18:49

Hi all, I would like to introduce an abstract Concept into the A.I. and Gaming community.My only qualification is perception.I precieved the idea of a new concept there fore am qualified. This being said;,I, really need a professional to understand,interpite,develope,and verify it'spotentual. My belief is that it will introduce logic,and relitivity to programming;,Not,As a fast action,but,as an efficient over all learning process. Just as A.I. learns with repatition this could be used to relate logics,and relations over time.My introduction to the abstract concept begins with the observations which lead me to it.This is important to show the facts from the abstract usses. 1. Parrallel resistance A. effectiveParll_restance= 1 / ((1/r1)+(1/r2)+(1/r3)---) a1. effectiveParll_restance is always less than least resistor. a2. Before the last {1/} the sum is always intuativly a unique extension to the vector length. ie. .5+.25+.25 +.125=1.125 a3 The {{ effective_resistance is relitive to the lost_resistance and the total_resistance ie; effective_resistance = Total +(lost*-1) }} ie; 0.625= 1.125+((.25+.25)*-1) == .5 +.125 a4. Abstract: if resistance is an asc(code) ie:asc(*) is 49, then the total of "country United States" is relitive to " United " = { "country United States" + (("country +States" )*-1) B. Parrallel resistance program_loop format. b1. Stream$="800 96 50 12" total=val(Stream$,x) loop x=x+1 r=val(Stream$,x) total=(1/ (r*(1/total)+1)))*r next loop note total=8.69565217 == 1/((1/800)+(1/96)+(1/50)+(1/12)) ABSTRACT: b1a. Observe the percentage relation r*%= effective_total b1b .Observe A= atn(%) A1 A2 A3 final A =A3 Note that r(n)= total(n)*(1/tan(A(n))) or T(n)=R(n)*(1/tan(A(n)) final total=final total This is where logic_relative_addressing and relative_logic comes into play. Abstract:: A Abstract relitive logic 1. P>0 .5 2. P<0 * .25 3. H=0 .136 4. H>0 * .33P<0 5. P=1 .4 total = 1.616 6. Abstract relitive logic mixer : ( {1.616 - 1.036 = .58} *-1) + relitive total == 13 == " P<0 , H>0 " == "quadrent 2" B Abstract relitive addressing 1 Page unique_code = 0.02425 2 Options unique_code total = 0.325 3 address is 0.30075= 0.325+(0.02425*-1) 4 action== goto "[";"0.30075";"]" == goto [0.30075]'***************************[0.30075]open "page25.txt"return C Note the action is based on relations of content not on the content. ie; the action is assigned thru the relations that define it. Heavy concept?? yes!No one said dealing with logic,relitivity,reasoning,and selfawarness was simple.BUT YOU NEED TO START SOME WHERE. To understand it. I believe this to be the starting place.I need help proving it.This is only an incomplete glimps at the detail. '******************************************************************** SHOWING WHERE T AND A ENTER THE EQUATION:: Pr=1e100 {T(1),A(1)} {T(2),A(2)} {T(3),A(3)} {T(4),A(4)} Not in Formula form Pr=(1/1e100) (1/800) + (1/96) + (1/50) + (1/12) '******************************************************************** Pr=1e100 'initialize 'Abstract T T=Pr A=45 'initialize { relativity } { Pr) {T} %= 1 / ((800*(1/1e100)) +1) Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(0) -- Angle T=800*tan(A) 'Abstract T(0) Pr(1)=T -- total(0) T(1)=800 A(1)= 1 / ((800*(1/1e100)) +1) Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(0) -- Angle T(0)=800 'Abstract T(0) == Pr(0)=T -- total (0) A(0)=45 {{ 'initialize complete}}' '@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [loop]{1} { Pr} {T} '''''/%= 1 / ((800*(1/800)) +1) ''''/ Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(0) -- Angle T=800*tan(A) 'Abstract T(0) Pr(0)=T -- total T in Program form T(1)=800 %(1)= 1 / ((800*(1/800)) +1) Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(1) -- Angle A in Program form T(1)=400 A(1)=26.565051177077989351572193720453 next [loop]'@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [loop]{2} { Pr} {T} ''''/%= 1 / ((96*(1/800)) +1) ''''/Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(2) -- Angle T=96*tan(A) 'Abstract T(2) Pr(2)=T -- total T(2)=85.714285714285714285714285714286 %(1)= 1 / ((96*(1/800)) +1) Angle=atn(%) 'Abstract A(2) -- Angle T(2)=400 A(2)=41.760299703897870309452138780517 next [loop]'*********************************************************************************************** With T and A in the equation it is concievable to back_track the process. ie; T=Pr*tan(A) and Pr=T*(1/tan(A)) '@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Now the hard part.. This is the relitivity system.The SYSTEM that makes the Final_Code {FCode} relavent. Pi=atn(1)*4:Mdeg=(180/Pi):Mrdn=(Pi/180) DL$="800 96 50 12 3 7 18 21 41 45 96 50 12 3 7 18 800 96 50 12 3 7 18 21 41 21 41 45 96 50 12 3 7" Pr=val(word$(DL$,1)):F=Pr Pr=1e-100 for j=1 to Lng(DL$) R=val(word$(DL$,j)) FCode=FCode+((1/R)+(1/A)) gosub gosub [Decode] next j print eDL$ print FCode end 'print R c=abs(1/(R*(Pi^2))) c1=c Pr=F A=atn((1/((R*(1/F))+1)))*Mdeg L=(A*(1/(Pi^2))) F1=1/(((L*c)^.5)*(2*Pi)) Pr=R*tan(A*Mrdn) 'print Pr return [Decode] print R c=abs(1/(R*(Pi^2))) c2=c F2=1/(((L*c)^.5)*(2*Pi)) 'L2=((1/F2)/(2*Pi))/c2 F=(1/((1/tan(A*Mrdn))-1))*R A2=L*(Pi^2) D=Pr*(1/tan(A*Mrdn)):eDL$=eDL$;str$(int(D));" " 'print tab(16);D;" ";F1+(F*-1);" ";A2+(A*-1) return'@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ The relivence of the FCode is the logic of the system. Rule is {relitive to the system} FCode of "one apple = 35 cars" = only "one apple = 35 cars" Therefore box_Fcode is the same as box_"one apple = 35 cars" ;, But , box_Fcode + box_Fcode2 is _"one apple = 35 cars" + box_something else. ie; "P<0" + "H<0"= "Quadrent 2" How???? assigned logic --- if Code(1) + Code(2)= 0.73433 then GOTO= { Code= (Code(1) + Code(2) +Code(3) ) + ((Code(1) + Code(2))*-1) } if GOTO= ? then print "Quadrent 2" Now where we used resistance before;,We, can use coded logics and relate them as effective_Logic= 1/ ( (1/EL1) + (1/EL2) + (1/EL3) --)) or Gain=(Total+(Loss*-1)) The difference is that these are assigned abstract relitive relations {relitive to the rule of the abstract System} Now we can assign logics,relations,relitivity,reasoning,creativity, ect -- as temporary or constants.At {LEAST} it is a start at understanding how it works. If interested My e-mail is [deleted by moderator]

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Started by Onedream September 10, 2015 03:07 PM

98 comments, last by TheComet 8 years, 10 months ago

Onedream

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October 25, 2015 08:25 PM

This is to demonstrate a general idea of my thoughts

I thought it may be helpful in understandinng the over all concept.

Let's consider the perfect system.

That is where everything,or every modual, works perfectly.

In the perfect system everything is considered as feed back.

Think of a frame,be it picture or text, as a camera frame,as seeing something.

The frames of experience and memory are already in code so this is for a temporary memory

to work with the others.

Now this is one frame. // remember the frame is concidered feed back form somewhere.//

He saw that the person was injured in the hip and this is what he saw.

_____......XX......

_____.....XXXX.....

_____......XX......

_____...XXXXXXXX...

_____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX

_____.XX..XXXXX..XX

_____..X..XXXXX..X.

_____....XXX.XXX...

_____..Injury.XX...__mild injury

_____....XXX.XXX...

This is feed to the coder for coding.

Now the coder reads it one line at a time.

Accumulating the code,one character at a time.The accumulation is zeroed after each line.

Now code 1 is line 1

Code 1 is text code.

code 2 thru 9 is picture code.

code 10 is text and picture code.

code 11 is picture code.

The total of the codes is the frame code.

{Remember this is the perfect system.}

Now;,At the same time the coder is compiling the perfect code,to record the frame in one code.

This is to say that the frame can be reproduced from one code,by the decoder.

What!!!??

Ok,in the perfect system the last T and the last A is all that's needed in the decoder.

finalA=atn(( 1/( ( R*(1/F) )+1 ) ) )

finalT=R * A

And in the perfect system These two can be changed to one code,

Code=?

,such that-- sub Code -- produces;

He saw that the person was injured in the hip and this is what he saw.

_____......XX......

_____.....XXXX.....

_____......XX......

_____...XXXXXXXX...

_____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX

_____.XX..XXXXX..XX

_____..X..XXXXX..X.

_____....XXX.XXX...

_____..Injury.XX...__mild injury

_____....XXX.XXX...

Just for thought--If I have the right Code, I can produce a frame that has not been seen yet.

Note that the above is two separate functions,done in one system.

Now other possible functions are.

1. read by words

2. read by fragments.remember a fragment can by a statement or a section.

// fragment enclosed in { }. //

2a He {of all persons},should know.

_____{......XX......}

_____{.....XXXX.....}

_____{......XX......}

_____{...XXXXXXXX...}

_____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX

_____.XX..XXXXX..XX

_____..X..XXXXX..X.

_____....XXX.XXX...

_____..{Injury}.XX...__{mild injury}

_____....XXX.XXX...

word codes

Fragment Codes

4.Modify,annualize,record,act on //note logic as well as neural analyzers

4a characters

4b words

4C fragments

4d lines

5.send to analyzers

6.read feed back for;

Modify,annualize,record,act on

4a characters

4b words

4C fragments

4d lines

7 save experience //remember one Code.

8 feed new frame and repeat.

We do not have the perfect system,But,it may be worth looking at what we do have.

This is the coder.

The relative address is a different function,that uses the one coder function--Code.

Which in turn is used in logic analyzers.

Onedream

Author

120

October 25, 2015 09:17 PM

correction Chart at http://i.imgur.com/5qp29AM.jpg

Onedream

Author

120

October 25, 2015 10:04 PM

Alberth,

If I modify the code going into the decoder,then I produce something other than what was put in.

Then I can compare the logics of input against the logics of output and input corrections until the

out put is what I wanted or thought.

If it is worthy of remembering,then it is stored.

ronan.thibaudau

1,038

October 26, 2015 08:37 AM

This is the grail, we reinvented the dictionnary structure.

Onedream

Author

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October 26, 2015 12:46 PM

Albert,

As I said earlier,In the Coder you get feed back,that can modify the output.

Remember that output is dependent on string TL$ and String AL$ created in the Coder as input to the Decoder.

I tried to start by explaining the Coder and Decoder because if you do not understand them,then you can not use

the codes to do logics.

It is thru the Coder that the format for logics is processed.

It is thru the Decoder that the over all progress is recorded.

This is a case of { you have to crawl thru something before you can run thru it. }

You actually have to have two Coders or a Coder with two modes to make the logics work.

The only way I can explain this is to say,Think of the Coder and Decoder as the central processor unit for logics.CPU for logic.

Can you explain a computer without explaining the CPU?

BitMaster

8,652

October 26, 2015 01:06 PM

Can you explain a computer without explaining the CPU?

Yes. For example by starting at Turing machines or µ-recursive functions which form the basis of computability. A CPU just adds a lot of unnecessary noise on top of that which is just an implementation detail.

conquestor3

1,592

October 26, 2015 02:06 PM

Go back a bit farther. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

BitMaster

8,652

October 26, 2015 02:15 PM

Turing machines and µ-recursive functions are the standard in a decent computer science lecture. Antikythera, while certainly interesting and an important bit of history, is not.

Talking about Antikythera has the same problems as talking about CPUs (a lot of implementation detail which distracts from the actual important issues) while having none of the benefits (at least when talking about CPUs you do learn a bit about implementation details which are used currently).

Alberth

10,222

October 26, 2015 05:15 PM

If it is worthy of remembering,then it is stored.

This is exactly the problem. How is a computer going to decide it is worthy?

The obvious solution "everything is worthy" fails in having to store too much.

I haven't seen any other solution yet (although I am not good in AI, so it may exist).

samoth

9,833

October 26, 2015 10:23 PM

If it is worthy of remembering,then it is stored.
This is exactly the problem. How is a computer going to decide it is worthy?

Nature solves that problem through massively negative conditioning. Usually death.

Animals who do not fear fire die, animals who fear fire and run away survive. Those who survive reproduce. Animals who don't try to eat yellow-black insects aren't stung in the tongue. Those who try are stung.

So... basically, every time your computer does something wrong, plug a 240V cable into the ethernet port!

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