WTF OP? Go die, stupid troll.

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It's quite likely that the OP is just trolling to try and start a religion vs atheism flame war. I trust no one is going to bite...
If you look through his posting history, it's a borderline troll account.

I don't see why he's allowed to continue posting on this site, then...

Allthough it is worth remembering Sep 11 1973 aswell, it is a significant part of chile's history and there are lessons to be learned from it.

Indeed - the troll's joke is that 9/11/73 is a day where democracy and freedom were actually directly attacked, which is the rhetoric that Bush often used about 9/11/01 ("the terrorists just hate our freedom", etc), and is also trolling with the irony that the US funded the '73 attack on democracy...

I don't see why he's allowed to continue posting on this site, then...

Warnings will come before a ban. The community already doesn't seem impressed with him, what with -60 rep in a few days.

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The latter is a much smaller measurable impact, but is probably also more traumatic because of the impact it has on the perception of the safety of yourself and the people you care about.

I think pre-2001 Americans might have been unique in believing that they were somehow invulnerable.

Across the pond, we always lived with the knowledge that we might be bombed by the IRA, taken hostage by Basque separatists, or doused in gasoline and set on fire by PETA...
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I more or less remember the day it happened and the overall impression I got from the people I knew in the 'states at the time was that it was unprovoked (upon which point I got into an arguement re: US foreign policy) and that some how terrorism didn't really exist until then (at which point I got into an arguement about the IRA and the links to US funding of the same who carried out a terror campaign in a friendly country).

This thread gets +1 because I learned something actually interesting about 9/11 (ie. Chile). Outside of that, this day is about the victims not the US.

I more or less remember the day it happened and the overall impression I got from the people I knew in the 'states at the time was that it was unprovoked (upon which point I got into an arguement re: US foreign policy) and that some how terrorism didn't really exist until then (at which point I got into an arguement about the IRA and the links to US funding of the same who carried out a terror campaign in a friendly country).

I hope that 11 years is not too soon for people to see the irony that US-funded 'freedom fighters' should eventually turn their backs on Soviet imperialism, and focus on our brand of Capitalist imperialism instead...

9/11 will be remembered in history, but for perhaps the wrong reasons.

As the fall of the Roman Empire took hundreds of years, it can easily be traced back to certain key dates.

9/11 is one of those such dates. It was one of the key points in the fall of US preemenance. When the United States embarked on a fiscally irresponsible nation building exercise, that nearly bankrupted the nation, shrank the middle class and strengthened China.

Of course, it will take several hundred years to prove me right. The US government could right the ship, stop deficit spending and focus on regrowing the middle class... but I don't see that happening. Especially when you have two equally inept parties running pretty much on the exact same platform distinguished only by the particular brand of meddling in social matters they care to trumpet.

One other thing I always find tragically laughable about the never forget crowd... quick, when were the attacks in the UK or Spain? When was the Cole attacked? What about the terrorist attacks on Japan's subway system?

I will admit though, key points in history are remembered way out of significance to their body count. The Munich attacks are a very significant example. 9/11 will live on through the annals of history, just not for the reasons most people think.

One other thing I always find tragically laughable about the never forget crowd... quick, when were the attacks in the UK or Spain? When was the Cole attacked? What about the terrorist attacks on Japan's subway system?

I think it would be interesting if they had named 9/11 something other than "9/11". Iirc the UK bombings were in 2005, but I don't remember the month. I've never been good at remembering dates and would probably forget the date if it weren't named after the date. We'll probably still hear about it for a while; we still remember Pearl Harbour, and it had fewer deaths I think.

I think pre-2001 Americans might have been unique in believing that they were somehow invulnerable.
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Fair points made. It was probably the first time where the goal was civilian American death rather than leveraging those Americans for some sort of political gain. Understandably not everybody sympathizes with that, but it is a sobering thing to have happen on such a scale.

I find it sadly hypocritical that Americans hold onto 9/11 far more than OKC, or the Sikh shootings, or Columbine, or Gabrielle Giffords, or VaTech, or the abortion doctor assassinations, or...

There have been so many examples of domestic terrorism in modern times, but we largely forget them, ignore them, and shake our heads sadly when they happen again. We focus on muslims because it's easy, and do tremendous damage to the American ideal with such intollerance. 9/11 was bad, but our single-minded reaction has compounded the damage.

I think it would be interesting if they had named 9/11 something other than "9/11". Iirc the UK bombings were in 2005, but I don't remember the month. I've never been good at remembering dates and would probably forget the date if it weren't named after the date.

The UK bombings where 7/7 although I don't blame you for not knowing - I couldn't name the others either. The only reason the UK one sticks at all in my head is because a friend of mine at the time had someone they knew killed in it but even then it just makes me remember the date, not be all morning about it.

In a way I see making a big deal of these dates as a sign the terrorist 'won' - well not 'won' but you know; the event has been etched into memory and as such will be remembered and thus so will they. In a way letting it go after a few years and saying "no, we won't be tied to this..." is probably better. (But I have much the same feeling about the various WW2 events; the sooner they pass into history the better as we keep dwelling on the past which keeps grudges alive and stops us moving forward.)

Across the pond, we always lived with the knowledge that we might be bombed by the IRA, taken hostage by Basque separatists, or doused in gasoline and set on fire by PETA...

Interestingly, 9/11 was a disaster for the IRA, as suddenly terrorism didn't seem quite as much like freedom fighting to the Irish American community and support promptly dried up.

I still think it was a miracle 9/11 wasn't a lot worse in terms of bloodshed. At the time, I'd recently been to NY, and did the tourist thing of going up the twin towers, and I distinctly remember my first reaction being "oh crap, there are 50,000 people in those buildings".