To all those who played skyrim and like it, i respond you to you that you are hypocrites.
How dare you like skyrim. You play games only becomes of their marketing hype, and copy paste the wow crowd reaction.
Unbiased skyrim rating : 0/5.
Controls :
The most notable thing in skyrim is its awkward controls even the mouse and keyboard don't work in the menus. You have to obtain 4 hands to "play" the game.
Crap controls only 2 attacks can be "hold" on mouse. You have to wait 10 years to switch a spell. Switching with buttons 1-9 doesn't work, it will mess your duel wielding.
Graphics:
Has crap uninspired graphics for enemies, even ff7 in stone era 20 years ago had better enemy graphics. wow, madcraps are gonna kill me, nice concept art.
Enemies have no abilities, simple autoattack - autowalk mobs. Mario in 1960 had better enemies.
Menu graphics sucks, its like it is done by a 3 year old c++ script kiddie. Its 5-10 buttons thrown on your face, and you have to navigate them with "up", "down" keyboard.
Stats:
Perk system sucks, the perk abilities aren't even noticeable, wow that +5% gold that is gonna help me so much when i have unlimited gold.
Spells don't scale, hi this is an rpg where enemies level up, but YOU the player level down as time passes, as your spells have the same static dmg, static effect.
You can create an unwinnable game if you level up only non combat proffisions.
No customization everyone ends as the same 100 skill min-maxed capped toon.
Skill caps : 100. You are forbidden from playing the game after 100 skill caps, and why play if you get no rewards.
Has no magic / real spell system, spells are only a "weak mechanical reproducible scientific ability" you might as well think that flames comes from your azz.
No Spell variety only 10 spells exist in the game, the other are copy paste with a different texture.
Others:
1) added dragons, against elder scrolls role. The dragons were "unhittable" meshes. Attacking a dragon while flying dealt 0 dmg with bows, it just passed through them. Dragons could teleport.
Bad animation: I was surprised when the dragon in the beginning teleported 0.1 meter to catch an npc with his nails, playing a badly designed/synched scripted animation, big immersion breaker. If you can't handle animation then dont add it, no need to pretend.
2) Awfull afk combat system: Enemies don't even notice that you attack them at all, they dont react, no "get damaged animation". Its like 2 afk mobs getting stuck in "attack animation", and just numbers flying above them.
To realise how bad the combat system is do the following. Go near a dragon, get down to 10% hp.
Open console add 999999999999999999999 hp. After 1 second the dragon will remember that once upon a time you had low hp and after it finishes its previous animation it will teleport you on its mouth, throwing you away and giving you a game over screen. Doing console.world.teleport() to other locations wont save you from the game over screen.
3) Color blind game: only 1 color existings in this game gray. the same copy paste snow environment.
You: but it has waterfalls with nice graphics me: which is gray.
4) Invisible walls everywhere, cant jump, no exploration, cant go above mountains because invisible walls stop you. You dont belive me ? play with console.player.jump = 50
5) Crap main character graphics. You only see the main character's back. Wow seeing the same crap badly designed wizard robe for 60 hours is fun. Only 1 wizard robe model in the entire game, the others are only recolors. To me it seems as a static afk image sprite representing my character.
6) no character appearance choice, if you dare to wear something that looks better you die.
7) Enemies kill you in 1 hit. well i see their choice, since the game has no fight animation, no choices in battle you only perform the same copy paste action, fights must last 1-6 sec so that the player doesnt realise how much the game sucks.
8) Save-load spam. If you die you have to replay the game from scrach from the last save and if you forgot to save ? well better throw skyrim to the trash can then.
The designers were too lazy to add checkpoints so that if you die you respawn in a nearby position.
Skyrim adds nothing new to the elder scrolls franchise, it shouldn't have been created, morrowind is better. Graphics aren't gonna save skyrim.
Skyrim sucks, anyone who played it also sucks
Someone woke up on the wrong side of bed today ?
I voted: Skyrim was fine and morrowind was better, (Oblivion sucked unless you modded the living crap out of it).
1) Games change the lore all the time, + dragons are awesomesauce.
2) Yeah, using the console can break things, how unusual.
3) Wait what ? (Yes there is alot of snow in skyrim, but if you move around a bit you get other colors, and besides, morrowind had even less color variation)
4) See 2, The walls are a non issue if you play normally, + they can be moved with the CS if you want to extend the world. (Morrowind was better in this regard though as you could swim out indefinitly but that approach obviously doesn't work that well with the mainland)
5) You can rotate the camera, + TES have always had shitty animations (nothing new there).
6) If you use the smithing skill you can use pretty much any armor and still cap out your defense (That if anything sucks really hard as it makes armor choice irrelevant).
7) and this is different from the other TES games how exactly ? (Combat has never been the strong point of TES)
8) Wait what ? Checkpoints in a openworld game ? , you have autosaves on area changes, fast travel, resting, etc.
9?) Yes morrowind is better(in my opinion), But one could easily say that Daggerfall is better than morrowind aswell and thus morrowind shouldn't have been created, Heck i think Mount & Blade is better than all TES games so Bethesda should just close shop i guess (Nevermind the fact that alot of people seem to have enjoyed both Oblivion and Skyrim).
Personally my main problem with Skyrim is the level scaling (Its better than Oblivions but still annoying as leveling makes the game easier if you pick the "right" skills, harder if you pick the "wrong" skills and totally pointless if you play as intended), the smithing skill (makes the game trivial as you level up) and Destruction magic (worthless as it doesn't scale).
I found quite many of the quests to be quite enjoyable though.
Now for your thread title,
Did you play skyrim ?
If you didn't, how do you know that it sucks ?
and if you did, then you suck aswell don't you ?
I voted: Skyrim was fine and morrowind was better, (Oblivion sucked unless you modded the living crap out of it).
1) Games change the lore all the time, + dragons are awesomesauce.
2) Yeah, using the console can break things, how unusual.
3) Wait what ? (Yes there is alot of snow in skyrim, but if you move around a bit you get other colors, and besides, morrowind had even less color variation)
4) See 2, The walls are a non issue if you play normally, + they can be moved with the CS if you want to extend the world. (Morrowind was better in this regard though as you could swim out indefinitly but that approach obviously doesn't work that well with the mainland)
5) You can rotate the camera, + TES have always had shitty animations (nothing new there).
6) If you use the smithing skill you can use pretty much any armor and still cap out your defense (That if anything sucks really hard as it makes armor choice irrelevant).
7) and this is different from the other TES games how exactly ? (Combat has never been the strong point of TES)
8) Wait what ? Checkpoints in a openworld game ? , you have autosaves on area changes, fast travel, resting, etc.
9?) Yes morrowind is better(in my opinion), But one could easily say that Daggerfall is better than morrowind aswell and thus morrowind shouldn't have been created, Heck i think Mount & Blade is better than all TES games so Bethesda should just close shop i guess (Nevermind the fact that alot of people seem to have enjoyed both Oblivion and Skyrim).
Personally my main problem with Skyrim is the level scaling (Its better than Oblivions but still annoying as leveling makes the game easier if you pick the "right" skills, harder if you pick the "wrong" skills and totally pointless if you play as intended), the smithing skill (makes the game trivial as you level up) and Destruction magic (worthless as it doesn't scale).
I found quite many of the quests to be quite enjoyable though.
Now for your thread title,
Did you play skyrim ?
If you didn't, how do you know that it sucks ?
and if you did, then you suck aswell don't you ?
[size="1"]I don't suffer from insanity, I'm enjoying every minute of it.
The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!
The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!
Skyrim did not catch the same feeling as Oblivion did. I havent tried anything TES before Oblivion, but I loved Oblivon. It reminded me of MM: Mandate of Heaven, so I kind of got a "Might and Magic 7" by playing Oblivion. Skyrim is fun, but I remember having a hard time getting away from the computer when playing Oblivion. I havent beaten even one fourth part of Skyrim (A guess), but I rarely play it.
if you did, then you suck aswell don't you ?[/quote]
i know i suck, i wont pretend i am a normal person.
What infuriates me is those reviewers having the audacity to give a 94 score to crap games like skyrim and then giving a 60 score to other games that have better graphics, combat, gameplay, replayability, gui just because they are "free" or because skyrim has better marketing.
5)You can rotate the camera[/quote]
Then the game will become unplayable, you wont be able to see ahead of you.
8)Wait what ? Checkpoints in a openworld game ?[/quote] To me skyrim feels like a 1960 ninento game.
Word of warcraft who is also an open world game, after dying you just teleport to the graveyard, you dont lose your progress.
Wait what ? Checkpoints in a openworld game ?To me skyrim feels like a 1960 ninento game.
Word of warcraft who is also an open world game, after dying you just teleport to the graveyard, you dont lose your progress.
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WoW is persistent and requires continued subscriptions. It's a different model that requires different mechanics, and WoW had much worse problems than skyrim at launch. I haven't played in a long time, but vanilla WoW had some very serious gameplay issues.
I don't agree with all of your specifics, but I do find the graphics distinctly underwhelming, the economy to be broken, and the combat just downright sucks.
Why can't I block with my main weapon when off-handing a spell? Why can't I quick-switch weapon/shield pairs, rather than having to round trip to the (awful) inventory screen? How come the item drops from a single dungeon are enough to bankrupt all the merchants in the surrounding area?
Maybe 6 months down the road, with a ton of patches and mods, I'll actually be able to enjoy this game. In the meantime, I'm hoping ME3 manages to fulfil my action-RPG cravings...
Why can't I block with my main weapon when off-handing a spell? Why can't I quick-switch weapon/shield pairs, rather than having to round trip to the (awful) inventory screen? How come the item drops from a single dungeon are enough to bankrupt all the merchants in the surrounding area?
Maybe 6 months down the road, with a ton of patches and mods, I'll actually be able to enjoy this game. In the meantime, I'm hoping ME3 manages to fulfil my action-RPG cravings...
Tristam MacDonald. Ex-BigTech Software Engineer. Future farmer. [https://trist.am]
I've always wanted to like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim. I get excited every time a new one comes out. Then I play it for 20 minutes and remember why I don't play those games.
All this stuff that sounds cool in a game, open worlds and persistent people and what not, it just doesn't add up to that much fun IMO.
Also, the combat sucks and I can't stand the levelling system.
Just not a fan of the series as much as I want to be...
All this stuff that sounds cool in a game, open worlds and persistent people and what not, it just doesn't add up to that much fun IMO.
Also, the combat sucks and I can't stand the levelling system.
Just not a fan of the series as much as I want to be...
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