Why does it matter if you made a hacked flash drive? How are you going to get anyone to use it?

You have placed a programmable gateway to your voting system in my hand. That doesn't concern you even a little? It should.

No, capitalism does not create utopia but it does force the majority to get off their asses and go to work.[/quote]
Really? According to my history books, the masses usually decide they don't like to work, and being dominant both numerically and in the means of production, they impose socialism on the nation...

No, capitalism does not create utopia but it does force the majority to get off their asses and go to work.

That's communism. Where everyone works equally.

Capitalism rewards monetary profit. How you get it doesn't matter, but work is the least efficient way to do it. Capitalism punishes work on its own rewards scale. Why work, when it's better to have 10 people work for you. Salaries aren't part of it. Under capitalism, slavery is desirable and most profitable way of making profit. If only it weren't for those anti-capitalist governments which talk about stuff like "Human Rights" that banned slavery.

Everyone who is in the lower income bracket simply lacks an education or has a degree in a low demand field such as art, photography, theater, music, and other low demand high supply fields.

This is simply not true.

While college is kinda stupid, the association between education and career made in this thread is just not in line with the real world. Education is not job training, and college is not the core of education.

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No, capitalism does not create utopia but it does force the majority to get off their asses and go to work.

That's communism. Where everyone works equally.[/quote]

LOL... thanks for that.

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Everyone who is in the lower income bracket simply lacks an education or has a degree in a low demand field such as art, photography, theater, music, and other low demand high supply fields.

This is simply not true.

While college is kinda stupid, the association between education and career made in this thread is just not in line with the real world. Education is not job training, and college is not the core of education.
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This is true. I barely graduated high school, and somehow managed to convince a company to hire me as a programmer right out of high school. I tried going to a community college for a few weeks, but it was a waste of time and I dropped out. Now I am doing quite well for myself as the Director of Software Development for the company I work for. Some people will be successful and some people will fail regardless of their educational background.

The college/university system IMHO is being abused. It is not meant to prepare people to work at a job. In its essence it's meant to teach students scientific methods and spread/improve knowledge. A place where students and professors gather to develop new ideas, make groundbreaking discoveries that are not only in corporate interest but available to everyone.

Perhaps you haven't noticed that capitalism hasn't created utopia yet. But you know, it's only a matter of time till the free market works it all out, right?

To be fair, there aren't really any free market economies around; not any major ones anyway.

@Thread: Still waiting on a reply as to why government subsidising educations causes class segregation more than rising tuition costs across the board.

Under capitalism, slavery is desirable and most profitable way of making profit. If only it weren't for those anti-capitalist governments which talk about stuff like "Human Rights" that banned slavery.

This is mostly semantic, but it's an important difference. Slavery is not synonymous with having people work for you for free. Slavery is owning someone and having complete control over their life and belongings. This is not capitalism. Capitalism requires parties being able to negotiate prices they think are fair (could be free) for goods or services. In slavery one party does not have the option of negotiating prices or choosing which goods/services they will offer for those prices.

[quote name='swiftcoder' timestamp='1328291338' post='4909238'] Perhaps you haven't noticed that capitalism hasn't created utopia yet. But you know, it's only a matter of time till the free market works it all out, right?

To be fair, there aren't really any free market economies around; not any major ones anyway.

@Thread: Still waiting on a reply as to why government subsidising educations causes class segregation more than rising tuition costs across the board.
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No, you misunderstood. I don't think it causes class segregation but it is a waste of money. My point was that a better system could be created that would decrease class segregation only as an added benefit to improving our economy. If we found a way to lower tuition or even make it free, that would be an even better solution than anything I've seen presented so far. However, there is no way I can see to do this so we have to look at other solutions.

However, there is no way I can see to do this so we have to look at other solutions.

This is becoming a sadly recurring theme - you not seeing any of the perfectly viable solutions, and thus leaping to a ludicrous one.

Why can't we lower tuition, or even make it free? Canada does. The UK does. France and Germany do. Even India manages to provide free higher education, and if a large third-world nation with massive poverty can do it, it's rather embarrassing that a smart first-worlder can't see it as a viable solution.

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However, there is no way I can see to do this so we have to look at other solutions.

This is becoming a sadly recurring theme - you not seeing any of the perfectly viable solutions, and thus leaping to a ludicrous one.

Why can't we lower tuition, or even make it free? Canada does. The UK does. France and Germany do. Even India manages to provide free higher education, and if a large third-world nation with massive poverty can do it, it's rather embarrassing that a smart first-worlder can't see it as a viable solution.
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Teachers need pay, colleges need buildings, and students need books. I mean we could make college entirely online which would greatly reduce the cost but that's not an acceptable option for most people. Also technically college is practically free as a result of pell grants but again this is a huge waste of money since most people go to college for what they want to do and not what our society needs.