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There is the problem as well of techniques, can I patent cascaded shadow mapping? Deferred rendering? If not why? I came up with, well the end user doesn't know what you used, so you won't get more sales for something you cant see. But then I realized mp3 needs licensing and users don't know if you use Ogg, Mp3, or other. So how can any software ideas be patented? It's very confusing. So theoretically I think deferred rendering could be patented. So if it did, we SHOULD blame whoever patents it. To say don't blame Apple blame the system is dumb. They are using the system and doing something so disrespectful. So I blame Apple 100%. Laws ARE confusing. Should Apple apply for this patent? No. That's not confusing. Apple sucks. Pure greed in this case.

I disagree that we should blame people for taking full advantage of the system rather than the system. If the system worked Apple would never get this patent in the first place. I don't know where this expectation that corporations shouldn't do their best to increase their profits and protect those profits came from. You can only count on a corporation to do that; it's their nature. If the system is set up in such a way that corporations can take advantage of it to hurt the economy just by doing what is in their nature, it is a problem with the system.
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In all honesty, if anything was done to prevent Apple from filing such silly patents, then the "oh noes deh regulataz iz hurr" platoon will deploy en masse saying that regulation is stifling business and is uncapitalistic, anti-free market.

In all honesty, if anything was done to prevent Apple from filing such silly patents, then the "oh noes deh regulataz iz hurr" platoon will deploy en masse saying that regulation is stifling business and is uncapitalistic, anti-free market.

I'm sure they would, but patents aren't really a free-market thing to begin with. It's still silly to blame a corporation for doing exactly what a corporation would be expected to do given the system they are put in.

It should be noted that large corporations do create and buy these silly patents for their own protection as well. I'm sure the patent conversation has happened on here before, but in general the whole system is too messed up for anybody to blame anybody but the system itself. People can definitely be patent dickheads, which is a position I don't care for, but at the end of the day the blame ultimately falls on a system that lets itself be exploited.

In the case of this patent with apple it's neither novel nor non-obvious, and it never should have been approved in the first place. That is a problem with the system. Corporations should be able to file for as many ridiculous patents as they think is worth their money. The problem is that corporations are actually getting their ridiculous patents approved; that is not the fault of the corporation.

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heres a gesture someone should patent, finger druming (like a person does on a desk) you could have it two way left -> right & right to left [/quote]
[color=#1C2837][size=2]Actually this is quite an idea, it could be used to pause the current app & say bring up the main screen.
[color=#1C2837][size=2]Is there a site where I can suggest this?
[color=#1C2837][size=2]IIRC there is some site where you can put forward your ideas, so ppl couldnt patent them

What rules can anyone put forward to allow sensible patents and not "one finger tap to open your app" patents?

Meh. Just remove software patents altogether; they were made to serve as a protective measure for original creators and inventors but has become the weapon of choice for major corporations taking the figurative fist fights against each other.

What rules can anyone put forward to allow sensible patents and not "one finger tap to open your app" patents?

Form a group of old women. If you wish to patent something, you must first convince them that it is unique, creative, new, and useful.

If we could redesign the patent system to run on something like that, then hopefully the vast majority would get struck down from the get go, and we could carry on with our lives without fear of being sued by some patent troll.

So long story short.... we're screwed.

Law books are huge, and again it is so confusing within people that make software what should be patented. I mean to a lot of people this doesn't make sense. Even if: sure they are supposed to make more profits, do as much as they can to make/protect profits: This is a complete dick move. This does not get them more profits whatsoever.

Meh. Just remove software patents altogether; they were made to serve as a protective measure for original creators and inventors but has become the weapon of choice for major corporations taking the figurative fist fights against each other.

People have tried petitioning and got a response. The government doesn't care to abolish software patents it would seem anytime soon. There's another petition currently asking them to abolish it. I'd imagine the amount of lobbying to keep software patents far outweighs the vocal people trying to get rid of them.

I have to imagine that whitehouse petition program is going to be its own pile of mess like the patent office.

"void the voting results that took place in Nicaragua"

What? ahaha (one of the petitions). Team Amerka gonna take care of this.