Hi Seyedof,
I am not american but in my opinion does it looks like the american adminstration is on the right track in their respond to the attack. Attacks like the WTC, Lockerbie and others there nobody is taking the responsibility is totally meaningless. The best way to stop it is to support the reasonable actions the american adminstration has talked about. In the long run is probably cooperation in the UN the best way.
I think that we all should stand united against the WTC terrorists even if we disagree about other things.

I know Iran pretty well and this is something we disagree about.
I have never been there and I know that things is getting better but the reports from people visiting Iran describes a nightmare in my view. The country is controlled by the priests with all kind of restrictions for the people.

Islam is probably not worse than any other religion but I can not call a people without all human rights for free. The right to disagree and so on. Americans talks about their constitution and others about the French revolution but it is pretty much the same.

I agree with that completely Gameovercl. You know what else is odd? I don''t have anything wrong with Jewish people, but almost all the media is run by Jewish people. And where is the Jewish homeland? Israel, and who has been at war with Israel for thousands of years? The Muslims... and who helps Israel fight the Muslims, America... a bit fishy eh?

Also a bit fishy? The news and congressmen are always like "Some country must have funded this, where would Bin Laden get that money? We must find the country that supported them and destroy them."

Hmmm do I recall in the 80''s we gave him millions of dollars and shit loads of weapons to Bin Laden so he would fight the Soviet Union? I mean.. WHY????!?!? The soviet union was trying to fix things, but no because they''re communist they MUST be bad.

Anyway... we can track down escaped convicts, find a dead bodied buried in the MIDDLE of nowhere in the rockie mountains.. but we can''t find two wanted terrorist in America in flight school, that were here for two years? I COULD DO THAT!


"seriously battles in the Dark Ages were soooo much more fun then they are now

back then: cutting heads and other limbs off, hangings, castle seiges

now: bombings, no limb cutting, nukes, and ----dumb religions----- fighting eriously battles in the Dark Ages were soooo much more fun then they are now"

Man, I don''t care if you are sick Mad4life.. .but that is the STUUUPPIIDIIST FUCKING thing I''ve EVER heard in my damn life.

Ever heard of the Crusades ho bitch?
I mean... how... how so god damn ignorant could you POSSIBLY be. I''m suprised you know how to type!

And I don''t care if I''m being an asshole about it. The ONLY reason I care why all those people died is because we got attacked because of our religion. Not all of our people are Christians,and you know what.. .I FUCKIN hate christians and if there is a hell I hope they all BURN in a fury death because this is your damn fault you double standard penis monkeys. Having mass prayer at high school graduations.. .What the fuck is that? I''ve put up with this shit for 17 years of my 17 year old life. You Christians need to think for yourself and realize that the religion is bull-shit.. I''m not saying that there isn''t a god.. or there is one. But the way some of you people follow it is FUCKING horrible, you can''t think for yourselves and you can''t realize double standards. Like you used to be a sinner if you were a banker.. then ALLL of the sudden the Catholic church was like "No it''s ok now, THE ALMIGHTY GOD CHANGED HIS MIND"

Hopefully my hatred for Christianity will lower a lot when I get out of this Christian HELL-HOLE of town, and Christian HELL-HOLE we call the South. 16 year olds not being able to get into a rated-R movie with their 21 Year old sister! Just because your parents aren''t with you. ANd the reason they do that is because the Christian pricks in this town kept bitching to the movie theater.. GET OFF MY FUCKIN BACK.

The only relief I can find is that these people turn to prayer and God after we got attacked, yet.. isn''t that really the main reason we got attacked? I find much humor that.

We don''t need religion... religion sadly dominates. If religion DIDN''T exist we could probably achieve peace, yet people find a reason to die for someone that they''re NOT EVEN SURE EXISTS!

Anyway, I''m sorry if I offended you. Please don''t take too much offense, for I just have to get it off my chest and I live in a very nazi very Christian conservative town. I''m sure not all Christians are this bad, in fact I''m sure a lot of Christians would come to this town and be like.. what the fuck is going on.

So this ramble was more for my relief.. but if you are a gun ho christian that wants prayer at school, etc. I hope you get offended. I hope you get so offended that you try to kick my ass.

But anyway.

End all religion and the world will be a much better place.
Peace out.

Go Marx, I''d rather be told what to do than have some company rape me up the ass for a few extra cents and have the government be like "Too bad, that''s capitalism"

www.crappysoft.com once I finish Crappy Mario it''s gonna be an all-out anti-christian game, anti-yuppy, pro-anarchy.

Anarchy''s stupid...but it''s the only government system that actually does what it means

lower_case
lowercase@crappysoft.com

CrappySoft - game production team with a punk attitude. Mail me if you want to make levels, art etc.

Well im a christian, but im not restricted by being one. I think about things all the time, even continuously ask questions about many religions ive ever heard of.

I get what you mean about people being so involved in it, following it and not living their own lives. I think religion should be the foundation of _one''s_ (singular) faith, not a cult.

Hehe, we get all these advertisements about ''rapping christians'' where they seem to ''rap'' about christianity. Not only do they seem like drug addics once they start going on about how God changed their whole life, but when i see that sort of stuff, i feel sick and just wanna turn off the tv.

Hi all,

Hi Newdeal (don''t use hey please
thanks man, maybe this is out fault and our govenment fault (it has too many faults!) that other countries know us like that. btw we have the future


Obelix
The terrorist must be punished, i don''t say than usa should not do anything! but you must go the right way. Bombing people is not the right way, you must just destroy the terrorists places and their forces, mass bombing is not a good way cuz it will kill ordinary people. Don''t think about a war like a game! it is horrible man. I remember my childhood when the alarms start and iraq planes arrived tehran bombing houses ! i was a kid all people were scaring, waiting outside our houses beside tall and old trees as a shelter, god damn it. We have spend our childhood in such bullshit so i know that is not fun to bomb people. Just kill the terrorists.
And about our country, yes i agree with you but i think i have told that this is not the problem of our people but our government but things are gettin much better than what it was for example 10 years ago and will get better, i think you have got the point.

Gorky
We do not kill addictives! From our POV Addiction is kind of illness that must be cured. We send addictive people to special hospitals to get ride of their addiction. We kill those who sell drugs but not all of them. A man who has sold 20g of for example opium or heroin will not be executed, just prison and... but the one who is selling or transporting a truck of 1000kg opium is executed and i think this is true. Cuz selling drugs is equal to killing people, young people, destroying happy families,... so this helps to stop those mass drug sellers, this is good for us and good for other countries too.

and a qoute from our holy Qoran :
"There is no must to accept the religion itself, but the way to heaven and hell is bright and obvious."

jesus christ almighty

this reminds me of a saying i heard: If a thousand fools say something is wrong does it make it wrong?


its like all of you fools saying im evil and dumb, but does that mean i am?


no, we all have different standards, so plz refrain from cursing, or calling me dumb, etc

"And God said, ''Let there be death'', and there was death"

Hey people, it was not my intention to cause the explosion of a war on THE war!!!
I''m happy a lot of people from all over the world has decided to
speak up.
At fist I was worried because the majority of the replies to my message were full of anger: is SO strange for me to read your messages in which you fight each other!!!
But then i''ve red some different ones,maybe because they are written by people who knows what a REAL war is!
I''m nobody(except, as you can see, the topic starter!), but I want to say that the bombing of Afghanistan is NOT right!
I''m Italian: do you think that because the Mafia does orrible overkills(which I CAN''T forgive)we have the right to bomb Palermo?
Maybe I''m stupid but I think it''s better to try to catch the criminals instead of killing with the eyes closed!!!
I don''t think I can make you change your opinion but if you think I''m wrong I would like to know why!
Ah, mad4life, I KNEW you were 15!!!!

Well... let me start with our favourite poster: Mad4Life

Mad4Life, I have a few questions for you.

1) Do you think bitching and insulting other people is the way a game programmer should act? I don''t think so. Read history, study philosophy, PLEASE read the Bible and other sacred books, spend a few years of your life at the University, take a look at some war books and LOOK CLOSER at the corps, crying children, raped women, destroyed cities.
2) Where the hell did you take the quote "And God said, ''Let there be death'', and there was death"? Remember: Jesus loved prostitutes, thieves and lost souls. He - along with other prophets - taught us how to love people.
3) "Middle age wars were cool". No comments. You really have to quit worshipping Beavis and Butthead. Please go to the library and READ.
4) Do you know what is living under war and terrorism? I do, because I was born in Chile.
5) At your age, I already read Marx, the Bible, greek philosophy, study theology and started to fight WITH PEACE INSTEAD OF VIOLENCE against our tyran, Pinochet. What have you done so far?
6) Final question, hehe. Do you know what''s the difference between a Solid Node BSP Tree and a Leafy one? Do you know what MipMap means? Do you know linear algebra, vector math, quaternions, calculus, real-time terrain rendering, AI, how to animate models with interpolation and skinning, or how to include radiosity on your engine? Sorry, but for me you not only sound like an ignorant, violent and sick guy, but also as a game programmer WANNABE.

C''ya on the Ku Klux Klan, buddy!

As for lower_case, I agree with him about religion and hate. I would have use other words, hehe, but I understand his anger (his only 17), and I like young people who dare to think different and seek for facts and arguments instead of verbal violence.

As for the people who want nukes and bombing, why don''t you join the army, and go to work in Afghanistan on the medical section, JUST BELOW THE BOMBINGS? Huh? Calling for daddy already?

Cristián Ramírez (gameovercl)
ICQ #38991565
Viña del Mar
CHILE


Cristián Ramírez (gameovercl)
ICQ #38991565
Viña del Mar
CHILE

I have 2 words for all those who think that war will solve the problem. Ghandi (+ve) and Vietnam (-ve)!

uhhhh i havent insulted anyone

i have read the bible, and i personally dont like it, i have my own beliefs

i got my quote from myself, keep in mind i have my own beliefs

i myself am an anarchist, i hate governments, i feel they are nothing more then slave drivers


if you want me to actually give educated answers, plz give me some educated questions or just email me and ask me whatever u want


uhh no i dont know the last stuff you said, most ppl may consider me ignorant but i consider most of the world ignorant


as for the programmer wannabe, i agree!!
i will be until i fully learn how to program

you humans should really try to look through my eyes and see how i perceive the world instead of insulting me

but you have not done that, you just go and judge me on ure own principles


yo no soy el diablo y no me gusta la violencia pero uds no entienda eso

"And God said, ''Let there be death'', and there was death"

Cristian, take it easy on Mad4life, remember he''s 15 and still has a lot to learn. Mad4life, you may like to think on this old arab proverb:

"A wise man has three opinions: one which he gives to the public, one which he gives only to a group of close friends, and one which he keeps for himself..."

Dont always say everything you think, it often stirs up emotional reactions and makes you loose the opportunity of changing your mind later on.