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Ubuntu

Started by January 13, 2011 01:31 PM
106 comments, last by Fiddler 13 years, 9 months ago
I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?

I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?

I switched to Ubuntu roughly three years ago. I spend most of my time there but occasionally dual boot to Windows for gaming and testing software.


Reasons for switching: it's free, fast and secure. It covers my needs (web, email, office, video, music, coding, recording). I like the window manager (scroll without window focus; alt-middle click to resize; alt-left click to move). I like the available software (gnome-do launcher; banshee media player; guake drop-down terminal; easystroke mouse gestures; empathy messenger; firefox; chrome; openoffice). I like its themeability and customization options. I like the fact that it uses familiar keyboard shortcuts (unlike Mac OS X or other Linux distros). I love the fact that it boots in 6 seconds flat (on my Intel SSD).

Reasons for not switching: you use your computer primarily for playing games. You absolutely require some piece of software that doesn't work on Linux. You prefer streamlining over customization (i.e. you wish to treat computers as an appliance).

My advice: try it out. Reserve ~16GB on your hard drive (run compmgmt.msc on windows and shrink one of your disks) and install Ubuntu there. Stick with it for a week, create a development environment, browse the web, see if it works for you. If it doesn't, no harm done: boot windows and wipe the partition. If it does, stick with it and add another tool to your belt. You never know when it will come in handy.

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I've used it on and off the last few years, but I don't care much for it. It's slow and clunky, Ubuntu's packaging is generally quite poor compared to the original Debian packages (I don't know how they manage to screw up PulseAudio even worse than upstream) and the major focus of the distribution seems to be grabbing as many headlines as possible, which equates to using poorly tested, unfinished software just to be the first, ignoring bug reports in favor of pushing towards this release cycle's publicity goal and making things hell to configure manually for no apparent reason.

On the positive side, all of its attention whoring has really paid off which means that there's a lot of non-free software packaged for it and there's a large community around it (even though the official forums tend to give vague answers at best, and flat out incorrect, outright dangerous, answers at worst.)
I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora for KDE support and greater stability. With Fedora, the attitude toward KDE is that they are a Gnome distribution so you're lucky they provided the packages at all, let alone if the packages work. They aren't much better with supported packages and things breaking is almost a fact of life with Fedora. KDE support is a bit better with Kubuntu being an official derivative, but it's still a derivative so it's not supported to nearly the extent the Gnome desktop is. Also, Ubuntu's focus on usability means that I've had good luck even with backports enabled.

valderman pretty much covered why I moved away from Ubuntu and currently use openSUSE. The Ubuntu forums try to be helpful, no RTFM attitude, but often seem like the blind leading the blind. Also, manual configuration is very nice in openSUSE with Yast where Ubuntu makes you jump through hoops. For example, there's a PPA that gets recommended regularly to get the aoTuV updates to the ogg vorbis libraries, but to use it you'd have to uninstall the standard libraries (which means you'll have to do something about the dependencies) install the version from the PPA, and lock that version meaning you'll have to manually track updates to the libraries. Unfortunately, aoTuV isn't available in the OBS for openSUSE, but, if it were, you'd just select the version you want in Yast, which will change the vendor so it will track the version in that repository.

I tried it, and even got my whole development toolchain set up on it. I abandoned it for Windows 7 for the following reasons:
  • It was really, really hard to resize windows. Like, the handle on the edge/corners of windows was typically 1px for resizing.
  • Font antialiasing worked very poorly in OpenOffice, especially for fonts I'd imported from my Windows partition.
  • OpenOffice generally just sucks compared to MS Office.
  • I missed the Win+left and Win+right shortcuts in Windows 7.
  • Half the stuff in my laptop didn't have great drivers in Ubuntu, such as my trackpad and media control area on the keyboard.
  • Printing to a printer shared from a Windows machine didn't work.
  • etc.
    Basically, it was just rough around all the edges. Given that I already own Windows, why put up with that crap?
I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?

I've used for a while, and stuck with it over the years because:
- It's very stable
- Generally don't need to worry about viruses and don't have to buy / spend the CPU&Memory on Virus Software
- Does what I need it to do (email / programming / play most games not made within the last 3 years)
- Free
- Highly customizable
- Feels absurdly faster than Windows. Had to install nVidia drivers, but it's simply way "snappier"
- Can change the code and I like to tinker
- It can look/feel any way I want. Sometimes I make it Windows-like, Mac O/S-like, or just generally custom depending on mood

I DO still keep a Windows 7 Install though for newer games and testing my code on Windows platforms.
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I have a Ubuntu setup at home and a Win7 setup on my work laptop. I use Ubuntu for pretty much everything, but do require access to Windows apps for work.

Ubuntu is capable of doing pretty much everything you need however it is, as stated above, rough around the edges. OpenOffice isn't as streamlined as Microsoft Offerings, but will work sufficiently well for most tasks. Window Resizing sucks, as mentioned. I do like the multiple desktops which turns Ctrl-(Up/Down/Left/Right) into a quick desktop navigation tool, and Ctrl-Shift-(Up/Down/Left/Right) to quickly move the current window around the desktops.

Overall I am impressed with the available applications for Ubuntu. I do enjoy using Thunderbird, Chrome, GRAMPS, KTorrent, VLC and some other apps which I have used less frequently. For home use I have also been very impressed with its ability to detect printers when connected without having to track down drivers at all. I haven't tried Win7 in this respect with the home Printer, but I know for work printers I was required to chase down drivers.

Win7 does seem far more polished though.

EDIT: Oh, the WHY....
The laptop had Vista on it. I needed to rebuild it. Vista sucked even worse on it after I rebuilt it, with finding drivers a major problem, and once drivers were installed it was still slow as a dog. I couldn't justify buying Win7, so Ubuntu was my Free option. I thought it was about time to give it a try (I had last used Redhat 7 many years ago, and it was only moderately successful in its job). It exceeded my expectations for speed, reliability and usability. I doubt I will go to anything else on that laptop (Compaq C710TU).

I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?


It's ok but I like ArchLinux better because it allows you to choose what you want to use more easily and has more recent versions of software in its package manager (it's more bleeding edge). Needs a bit more time to set up (you need to install the desktop manager you want for example, you start without any), but once you set it up to your liking, it needs no maintenance at all except a "pacman -Syu" every once in a while. I've had an ArchLinux running for 4 years without problems, then I got a new PC, and now this one is running for 3 years. It doesn't get slower or less stable after a while or so. It doesn't require risky updates to new major versions twice a year like Ubuntu (I say risky because in my experience Ubuntu gets less stable if you don't reinstall it from scratch), instead ArchLinux just gets incremental updates as often as you want.

Ubuntu is easy, but, if you post something on their forums it gets no reply because your message is pushed to the second page soon, and it's only easy if you want it their way.

I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?

I switched three to four years ago, because it was generally somewhat better polished on the desktop than Debian. I still feel happy with it, and I'm typing this on an Ubuntu netbook.

The window resizing thing did annoy me when I switched from KDE to Gnome during the initial messy days of KDE 4. Under KDE, you can bind a modifier key to window resizing, so that e.g. Ctrl + Mouse Drag moves and Alt + Mouse Drag resizes your windows, which is very cool. Then again, I'm a fullscreen kind of guy, so it never really bothered me much.
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I have not switched to Ubuntu yet. If you have it then why did you switch to Ubuntu?

I switched to linux in 2001 because it was free and it came with a built-in C compiler... for free! How cool is that!?

I currently use Kubuntu because i've neer been a big GNOME fan. I rarely need a copy of Windows for much of anything. If i do, it's actually for someone else's needs and not mine.

Keep in mind that you do not need to entirely "Swtich" to any operating system. You can dual-boot or use a virtual machine and have the best of both worlds.


Ubuntu's packaging is generally quite poor compared to the original Debian packages.

Really? My experience has been the opposite. I used to be a stock-debian user and switched to Kubuntu back in 2007 because the packaging was more cohesive and timely.


... OpenOffice generally just sucks compared to MS Office ...

After having dealt with the innards of both, I've come to the conclusion that they both suck.

Long live WordPerfect 8!


... complaining about window resizing ...

Isn't this more of a problem with the particular skin/theme than the operating system? I'm sure you can configure this. At least KDE does.

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