I''m currently working on a 3D Environmental project, 3dE named. I have built several tools for converting objects, surfacing the objects and placing them into a 3D space. The stuff is all free to download and test and I would even be happy to mail the sources to you if you like the initiative and would like to add your own expertise. Please note this is the very first release and a lot has to be done to make the stuff user-friendly...... The "render engine" is based on the examples on this site. Engine is a big word however, I will continue developing on this thing first now. Please let me know what you think. Maybe you think it stinks, is ok with me:-) Take a look on: http://212.204.132.69/opengl/opengl.asp best regards JohnE