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World Cup 2010

Started by June 11, 2010 10:07 AM
279 comments, last by LessBread 14 years, 4 months ago
*is nervous*
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The Italians had a goal ruled out too.


Oh I didn't see. I do know they have received far too many undeserved PKs.
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Wan, have you checked fifa.com?

Um yeah, not sure why I didn't think of that. [embarrass]

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@Wan:
http://www.sportschau.de/sp/layout/jsp/komponente/mediaseite/index.jsp?id=100945#mbContent

That's perfect, thanks! [smile]
So, 30mins into the Argentina - Mexico game and another dreadful call costs a team a goal; in this case a player who was offside by a couple of feet scored and it was given.

The 2nd goal however was a utter defensive cockup and deserved to be punished.

So, its looking like I'm 4/4 prediction wise right now...
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So, 30mins into the Argentina - Mexico game and another dreadful call costs a team a goal; in this case a player who was offside by a couple of feet scored and it was given.


Alright. That's for cheering England up against us in 86'. Consider us even now Mexico! LOL
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Quote: Original post by LessBread
The Italians had a goal ruled out too.


Oh I didn't see. I do know they have received far too many undeserved PKs.


It happened during their last group stage game against Slovakia. I'm not counting it as a bad call just noting that they had a goal disqualified.



Can Tevez kick the ball or what? His second goal was brilliant. His first was a total gift from the refs.

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Can Tevez kick the ball or what? His second goal was brilliant.


How about Heinze? Can he
#mex%20#arg">own a cameraman
? lol
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What is the purpose of the offsides rule? Seems to me that most of the iffy calls involve the offsides rule, but that most of the time there is no real need for such a rule. Corner kick, guy gets caught in between the last defender and the goal posts. That's what the offsides rule is supposed to prevent?
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The offside rule prevents the game from turning into gridiron football.

Caltech trains its eye on the World Cup ball

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Adidas produces a new ball for each World Cup and players invariably gripe. Four years ago, the German sporting goods giant switched from the traditional 32 stitched panels to 14. The current Jabulani model — its name means "to celebrate" in Zulu — is down to eight.
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The Lucas Wind Tunnel can generate monstrous gusts, but in this case they set the dial to about 30 meters per second, simulating the average speed of a ball kicked by an elite player.
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In addition to fewer panels, it has comparatively shallow seams for a more perfectly round shape, which might seem like a good thing. But the science can be counterintuitive.

Consider the history of the golf ball, which was smooth back in the mid-1800s.

"The Scots learned the hard way," McKeon said.

The addition of dimples made for a rougher surface but a narrower wake and less drag, which contributed to straighter, longer trajectories.

To some degree, the Jabulani represents a shift in the opposite direction, even with tiny ridges covering its skin. Caltech's study suggests that it starts with a smooth — or laminar — airflow, shifts to something more turbulent, then shifts back again.

These variations can have a big effect.

"So as the goalkeeper sees the ball coming, it suddenly seems to change its trajectory," McKeon said. "It's like putting the brakes on, but putting them on unevenly."
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What is the purpose of the offsides rule? Seems to me that most of the iffy calls involve the offsides rule, but that most of the time there is no real need for such a rule. Corner kick, guy gets caught in between the last defender and the goal posts. That's what the offsides rule is supposed to prevent?


Mostly to confuse people and aid amusing pub discussions which involve explaining it [grin]

Mostly its more than likely to prevent 'goal hanging' I guess, where by one team leaves a player behind the other teams defense so that you can just wack the ball up to them and have them 1-on-1 with the keeper.

So, in theory it requires more building up and passing to perform an attacking play, or at least a well timed run.

If the ball is recieved directly from a corner, goal kick or throw in however the player can't be offside, as stated in the rules.

When the ball comes out and gets knocked back in it can result in offside IF the defense move up fast enough to allow the player to be caught which is an element of tactics and alertness.

Although the above is complicated by the concept of 'activeness'. For example you can be in an offside position however if the ball isn't played in such a way as to make you 'active' then you aren't called offside.

An example of this would be you are on the left wing and the ball is played down the right; as you are on the wrong side you aren't considered 'active' and thus won't be flagged.

The rule didn't always exist, and not all rules of the game had it;
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Offside rules date back to codes of football developed at English public schools in the early nineteenth century. These offside rules were often much stricter than that in the modern game. In some of them, a player was "off his side" if he was standing in front of the ball. This was similar to the current offside law in rugby, which penalises any player between the ball and the opponent's goal. By contrast, the original Sheffield Rules had no offside rule, and players known as "kick-throughs" were positioned permanently near the opponents' goal.


This basically explains the rules as they are and as they were.

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