Learning the unreal engine WILL help you get a job so you should go for it.

That's probably one of the best things you can learn to increase your odds believe it or not.

Lots of studios are using it right now and are looking for people with experience with it.

Quote: Original post by Bru
i meant that i am generaly lazy when it comes to doing stuff that i dont like(which does NOT include game programming since i like that a lot).

Game programming is not some kind of party, you know. But that will be something you'll figure out for yourself when or if you get there.

Quote: and yes, i know, no degree,low grades and no offical experience means it's gona be heck hard for me to get a job, and that's why i opened this thread asking for tips.

My tip is, get a degree. If you were in the US or UK, had good demos and lots of indie experience, and it was two years ago (before the job killing recession), then you might have had a shot.

Oh, and try and meet some game developers in Israel; the country's not empty.

Quote: Original post by Bru
and yes, i know, no degree,low grades and no offical experience means it's gona be heck hard for me to get a job, and that's why i opened this thread asking for tips.

Our advice is to work on getting into college and, in the mean time, build a portfolio. Its perfectly possible to get a college education with low grades and no money if you're willing to work hard. Enroll in community college and get a part-time entry-level job. It can be a job flipping burgers if it pays the college bills. Maintain good grades. Transfer into a better college after a couple of years, take out some student loans, and keep the part-time job. Its not impossible to work your way through college. You wouldn't be the first person to have done so.

ok,thanks for the tip :)

Quote: woooah wait a moment,now that hurts. it's also NOT true. i want to put emphasis on the fact that i do like games,and even more i like creating games. when i said i am lazy i didnt mean i am too lazy to study something in order to improve my knowledge in game programming, i meant that i am generaly lazy when it comes to doing stuff that i dont like(which does NOT include game programming since i like that a lot).
i do have the motivation to put effort in it,and i want to work as a game programmer not because of the sallery,but because it realy is something that i can consider fun. infact,i think the game industry is the only place where i can work for 10 hours a day without going insane.
i got no idea why you got the impression i have no passion for games,but please forget about it because i do have motivation and will to be a game programmer.

If we think it imagine what potential employers would think! You need an attitude change, no job is perfect, you're always going to have to do things you don't like in order to achieve.
You have to accept that due to poor grades and nothing to really dazzle employers you have a long way to go, I don't expect you'll be moving to the US any time soon!
On the bright side, you're 17 you've got plenty of time to get where you want to go. Sort your education out, start a portfolio and then try and get on a degree course... there's no rush really.

Quote: Original post by Brui meant that i am generaly lazy when it comes to doing stuff that i dont like(which does NOT include game programming since i like that a lot).

That's the definition of laziness: Avoiding to to stuff you don't like.

Enthusiasm can only carry you so far. To be successful at anything, you will have to do boring/uninteresting/mundane stuff.