">youtube video Do not go to www.cars.gov! So by entering this website and using the DoT CARS system (government created for the Cash for Clunkers failure) you give them right to own all information on your computer, as it is "federal property" and can be disclosed to basically anyone they want, domestic or foreign (law enforcement agencies, officials, etc.). So this in turn means when a dealer goes to this website, business computers as well as the information contained on those computers (including client information) will be property of the government. Can anyone explain this?

Anti-abuse measure, deliberately misleading press.

The press sells this as "if yer browse tha web, government ownz yer 'puter". However, it's more like "if you register as a professional dealer for this program", which makes sense too.

What it means is that if you register as a professional dealer and you try to pull off some scam, then you're not going to either move to a different city or pay a 5,000 dollar fine from the 500,000 that you stole. Instead, you'll be hunted down for computer sabotage involving a governmental computer system, which gives you the status of a terrorist.
Usually I'm not fond of this kind of thing, but seeing how it went in Germany and seeing that nobody forces you to pull a scam, I think it's a good thing. Nobody forces you to even register, except if you want to be a professional dealer in this program.

In Germany, there was no such thing, everyone and their dog could apply for that wrecking money, and billions of euros have since then disappeared into dark pockets for cars that never existed. There's also an entirely "legal" new business of buying back old cars you sold to eastern EU years ago and wrecking them.

So, instead of sustaining the car industry (which is already questionable) with tax money, we're now sustaining the Mafia.
Ok, you could argue that the car industry is a kind of Mafia, but at least the car industry pays taxes and gives people a job.

Here's a quote from the website's privacy policy.

"What We Automatically Collect Online

We collect information about your visit that does not identify you personally. We can tell the computer, browser, and web service you are using. We also know the date, time, and pages you visit. Collecting this information helps us design the site to suit your needs. In the event of a known security or virus threat, we may collect information on the web content you view.

Why We Collect Information

Our principal purpose for collecting personal information online is to provide you with what you need and want, address security and virus concerns, and to ease the use of our website.

We will only use your information for the purposes you intended, to address security or virus threats, or for the purposes required under the law.
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So a threat such as cyber-terrorism, certainly a known security threat, allows the website to view and disclose information about the websites I visit? Is this run of the mill privacy policy, or something different?

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I'm confused. I'm not familiar with this show and I realize this is just a short clip, but what's the point of having two people on that agree on absolutely everything? Is one of them supposed to be the interviewer here?

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We collect information about your visit that does not identify you personally. We can tell the computer, browser, and web service you are using. We also know the date, time, and pages you visit.

Sounds exactly like what 100% of all websites on the internet do, to be honest.

This non-governmental site tells me as anonymous visitor what you're reading, when you were last active, and what browser you're using, and you've not even broken the law. Does that bother you? :-)

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We collect information about your visit that does not identify you personally. We can tell the computer, browser, and web service you are using. We also know the date, time, and pages you visit. Collecting this information helps us design the site to suit your needs. In the event of a known security or virus threat, we may collect information on the web content you view.

Why We Collect Information

Our principal purpose for collecting personal information online is to provide you with what you need and want, address security and virus concerns, and to ease the use of our website.

We will only use your information for the purposes you intended, to address security or virus threats, or for the purposes required under the law.

That looks like the privacy policy of just about every website ever.

It amazes me that we have wild gun men running the streets of the middle east, and yet the USA somehow manages to do better than that with the amount of paranoia its citizens seem to have of their own government.

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Quote: Original post by Chris Reynolds
We collect information about your visit that does not identify you personally. We can tell the computer, browser, and web service you are using. We also know the date, time, and pages you visit. Collecting this information helps us design the site to suit your needs. In the event of a known security or virus threat, we may collect information on the web content you view.

Why We Collect Information

Our principal purpose for collecting personal information online is to provide you with what you need and want, address security and virus concerns, and to ease the use of our website.

We will only use your information for the purposes you intended, to address security or virus threats, or for the purposes required under the law.

That looks like the privacy policy of just about every website ever.

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I see someone is a big Glenn Beck fan.

I normally hate FoxNews with a passion, but they have a point.

See, as you stated, normal websites track our activity and usage. No problem. But most of them don't grant the US government the legal right to do whatever they want with your puter for browsing their website, which this case does. Unlikely to happen? Sure. But still...