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Looking for a "choir person"

Started by December 16, 2007 07:08 PM
4 comments, last by taelmx 16 years, 11 months ago
I'm trying to make something with similar vocals to this:
I'm not looking for that specific language, because my game has it's own language(called Lunarian). There are also other languages, but I will make pronunciation scripts. I might also need help in doing the layering for the vocals to get the same effect in the video. [Edited by - taelmx on December 18, 2007 5:46:44 AM]
It's spelled "choir."

What, exactly, do you need help with? Are you looking for someone to put together a choir and record music? Or are you looking for someone to write something similar for your own choir? If it's the latter, I might be able to help you, but I don't have a personal choir that I can whistle up to record it.

It seems like you're looking for a composer to put together music like the Ghost In The Shell music (which, by the way, is what is in that video). If so, that's a tall order, because there are no (to my knowledge) large sample libraries of that kind of Slavic/Asian sound. So that means you'll need someone with access to performers who are willing to learn quite a bit of music and record it for free.

As an alternative, you might try this software if you're a composer. It's a singing-synthesis tool, and I imagine if you layered it, you could get a choir sound. If you're not a composer, you might want to find a composer running a PC-based system and buy them a copy of this software. Otherwise, you're not going to have much luck finding someone to do that much recording for free.

P.S. Yes, I am a choir person, I've sung in one of the top college choirs in the U.S., the St. Olaf Choir, and have lots of experience writing for vocal ensembles. Just in case you were wondering if I have the credentials :)

[Edited by - Blaise Douros on December 17, 2007 3:27:21 PM]
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Thank you! Wow, I did spell choir wrong...fixed it.

I would be able to compose music like Yoko Kanno, but I need the choir samples for it. I will probably only make one or two of these types of songs for my game. I am not looking for an exact copy, but just something close to it. Yoko Kanno has been a big influence in my music. I know how to compose for this type of song, but I am not sure how I would get this type of sound. I would be willing to pay a small amount to somebody that could help with this, but the game's budget is relatively small.

My biggest problem is the 'words' in the song. They would have to be sung by a choir and couldn't be synthesized...I am not very experienced with recordings. I don't think Vocaloid will be able to be stretched for this type of song.

P.S. Ghost in the Shell is an awesome anime. I love the soundtrack.
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Thank you! Wow, I did spell choir wrong...fixed it.


No worries ;)

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My biggest problem is the 'words' in the song. They would have to be sung by a choir and couldn't be synthesized...I am not very experienced with recordings. I don't think Vocaloid will be able to be stretched for this type of song.


Check out this demo page and you might change your mind. With enough layers, you could probably get something fairly close, although you won't be able to use the Japanese "anime voices" unless you can read the language (the interface is in Japanese for those ones). The whole point of Vocaloid is that the software sings the words you type into it, and synthesizes it on the fly. Granted, I've never used the software myself, but it seems like a pretty capable package. Take one more look at it. Otherwise, you're going to have to look at a large, high-end library like the EWQLSL symphonic choir packages, which don't have the ethnic sound you're looking for, and are expensive.

The only other option I can think of is this: write the music, and then leave out the choir in your final mix. Then, see if you can find a group that performs Balkan or Slavic music that is in your area--there are often one or two around, usually made up of rather earthy people, and who knows, you might get lucky. If you don't have any experience making samples, NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO START. It's hard, I've tried. Just see if you can get a group to record the music to a click track. It'll be better than nothing.

Think of it as an opportunity to expand yourself. I can almost guarantee that you won't find a sample library with these kinds of ethnic choir sounds, especially not one that is high-end enough to where you can make your own words, so your options are either synthesize it, or get live singers.

Good luck!
I have to agree with Blaise, you are really going to have to curb your expectations if you decide to go the sample/synthesis route. I am familiar with all the top-end choir VIs, and as good as they are, I just don't see them being able to emulate this type of syllabic singing. It's hard enough to get them to mimic latin jibberish in parts that aren't very exposed, and even then they all require a large amount of programming expertise and time.
John Rodriguez
I have tried a lot of the choir VIs, and I don't think they are able to do what I want. That's why I am looking for a choir person. I need somebody who can sing something similar in style to the Ghost in the Shell song. I can compose the track and even do an instrumental voice track as a guide, but to emulate this on a computer is still beyond current hardware and software capabilities. Maybe what I should be asking is "is there anybody who is or knows a female singer". I would also like to keep the costs for the singing minimal, preferably free.

I know of a plugin called Melodyne that is useful for editing vocal tracks, but that's all I have to work with for vocal editting. As I have said before, I am much of an audio editor as much as a composer.

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