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[4E6] Has anyone ever submitted an AJAX game?
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Has anyone ever submitted a web based game to Four Elements? How'd you do it?
[Edited by - nathandelane on October 19, 2007 10:10:56 AM]
I know from the previous competitions that web access is not allowed to be *required* to run your entry. So to run an ajax entry (if you really are talking about ajax as in wrapping up calls from browser client to server... rather then just a javascript game) then I'm guess you would have to automate a webserver installation - and run that webserver and close it down again when you execute the game.<br><br>I doubt it is really worth that effort?
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I read through the rules very carefully and didn't see any information pertaining to web based entries (either for or against) - that's why I'm wondering. The minimum requirements mentioned Firefox 2 and IE 7, but nothing about web servers :( I agree that would be ridiculously painful, but a web based game could be a much quicker make, and blow other entries out of the water - I'm NOT saying it would win.. but I suppose that it could win!
Doesn't rule 18 seem to invalidate this argument:
"18. Multiplayer games are permitted; multiplayer-only games are also permitted. If a game operates using a central server, the server software must be submitted to the judges so that they can ensure that it is not changed for the duration of the judging period. The server software must thus either run on the platforms given by the minimum specification, or be submitted in the form of a VMWare Virtual Machine. If you do not wish your server software to be released as a part of your entry, contact the contest manager to arrange separate submission."
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"18. Multiplayer games are permitted; multiplayer-only games are also permitted. If a game operates using a central server, the server software must be submitted to the judges so that they can ensure that it is not changed for the duration of the judging period. The server software must thus either run on the platforms given by the minimum specification, or be submitted in the form of a VMWare Virtual Machine. If you do not wish your server software to be released as a part of your entry, contact the contest manager to arrange separate submission."
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Hmm, interesting, I guess I didn't make much sense of that rule when I was reading through it. So my idea doesn't use a central server, rather it just uses MySQL, PHP, XHTML, CSS, and javascript. I could easily submit all of the code needed to install everything, or a complete installer or both probably - I could even generate a VMWare image. So would that then qualify under these conditions? I'm guessing that nobody has really ever submitted an AJAX or javascript game to this contest, right!?
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I could easily submit all of the code needed to install everything, or a complete installer or both probably - I could even generate a VMWare image. So would that then qualify under these conditions?
Yes, the point against you hosting the server yourself is that you *could* change the code, remove bugs etc, between the end date and the judging, which would be unfair to people who do submit their entry.
Exactly.
If you install mySQL, PHP, etc etc etc all into a VMWare machine and submit that as your game's "dedicated server," that'd be fine.
Running the game in a web browser is quite OK. You could submit something that runs entirely clientside (i.e. javascript powered) without the central server if you wanted - you'd still need to ensure that the user experience is good though (e.g. installer and start menu shortcut, versus trying to find an index.html file in a folder somewhere).
If you install mySQL, PHP, etc etc etc all into a VMWare machine and submit that as your game's "dedicated server," that'd be fine.
Running the game in a web browser is quite OK. You could submit something that runs entirely clientside (i.e. javascript powered) without the central server if you wanted - you'd still need to ensure that the user experience is good though (e.g. installer and start menu shortcut, versus trying to find an index.html file in a folder somewhere).
If you want it to run entirely client-side, installing database management systems might be too much. You might consider a more lightweight solution like SQLite, or use flat files. Flat files are not very good for handling requests from multiple machines at once, but from a single computer it will do just fine.
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