Quote: Original post by Dr Mean

Quote: Original post by Kylotan
I don't think that really compares to recording directly into the app though. It sounds like it would take 2 to 3 times as long to do it, for a start. Plus, I use a lot of punch-in and punch-out stuff in my audio which I don't think would be practical with that set up.

So you mean you do a lot of complex rhythms, hard to cut in and out?

No, I mean that sometimes it's necessary to play along with a track but only overwrite a small part of it, for example to fix a poorly-sung note in a previous take.

Quote: It does take pretty long though, like you said. Still doable though. And who knows; I might've overlooked a feature to accept a live direct line in signal in FL.

I think more recent editions of FL have some rudimentary direct audio recording, but from what I gather it's still not as advanced as what was in Cakewalk 5 years ago.

FL Studio is fine for recording, but it is not up to standards for me.
It could never stand high next to Pro Tools, Cubase, or Sonar.

Finale is an excellent program. If you want to do music for games, or movies,
you MUST know counterpoint theory and how to write notation, unless you are
just doing techno stuff or something like that. Theory helps every genre though,
and nothing is more impressive than a strong orchestra piece.

If no one has tried its capabilities, Sonar is the best out there in my opinion.
It has everything in it, notation editing via midi, piano block editing (like fruity loops) where the keyboard is displayed and you input the notes (great for drum editing), every sound clip editing tool you could ever need, and DirectX and VST plug in support. Seriously, Sonar is way better than Cubase. If you are running a PC it gets better performance too.

I use a MAudio Delta 1010 with Sonar, and I will never change my setup.

Quote: Original post by Dr Mean
I have to disagree with you saying that FL Studio is bad for recording. I've had no problems getting it to do what I want it to. I get great results with live recordings. Just check out my single "Christmas Eve Dream" on vincentrubinetti.com. It has an acoustic intro part.

What Slayer preset/fx/whatever did you use at 1:29 when the rhythm guitar comes in on that song?

Quote: Original post by Miszou

Quote: Original post by Dr Mean
I have to disagree with you saying that FL Studio is bad for recording. I've had no problems getting it to do what I want it to. I get great results with live recordings. Just check out my single "Christmas Eve Dream" on vincentrubinetti.com. It has an acoustic intro part.

What Slayer preset/fx/whatever did you use at 1:29 when the rhythm guitar comes in on that song?

Oh I don't remember. I took a preset, and edited it quite a bit. I also put a decent amount of eq and stereo enhancement on it.





I still think FL Studio is an amazingly designed program. Maybe it doesn't have as many features, but by pure inuitivity and simplicity in design, I think it's great. I have Cubasis VST. Now I know this is much different from Cubase, but it's so overly complicated. The user interface is disorganized (not to mention graphically bland). It could've been so much better by better design. It's the same reason Firefox is better than Internet Explorer.

I know ProTools is the industry standard, so there must've been some feature I was overlooking. I know one of them now, thanks to Kylotan. You're right, I believe. It's not really meant for direct audio recording.

But as far as I'm concerned, I can still get the job done. I have an 8-track recorder by Boss. Nice piece of equipment. It takes care of the recording, and FL takes care of the rest.


I'm not in the position to argue against other programs (Reason, Sonar, Nuendo), because I have little experience/knowledge with them. All I have to say for you people out there overwhelmed by the vast number of choices, is that FL Studio works for what it does. I highly recommend it, and that's my final word. :)


Doctor

I concur. FL is far and away capable of producing amazing quality music. I don't understand where people get off demeaning FL to techno/electronic music only.

Regarding the recording issue, I do know that you in fact CAN record directly into FL. Dr. Mean, I don't know how you missed it but it's quite an easy process if I understand it correctly. I myself don't have Producer edition, so I haven't done it personally but I know of quite a few people who do that.

Debunking the "FL only does techno music/loops claim..."
Check out my song "Vengeance" at www.soundclick.com/silverlineproductions
Perhaps a tad repetitive, but it was my first real orchestral attempt and I found FL no hinderance whatsoever.

I use a couple of pitched spoons, my knee and a talkboy...

I rule!

Here are some other inconsequentials:

Computer
MAC G5 Dual 1.8 3.0 gigs of ram

Hardware
Focusrite Saffire audio interface with DSP. (rocking so far)

Software
Finale 2004 (f'ed up at the moment)
Reason 3.0 (love it)
GPO (meh)
Digital Performer 4.5
EASTWESTORCHESTRA-PLATINUM (Too freaking powerful!)

Microphones
Shure SM57 mic (also rocking so far!)

Instruments
Edirol PCR 30 controller keyboard.

Quote: Original post by Miszou
I concur. FL is far and away capable of producing amazing quality music. I don't understand where people get off demeaning FL to techno/electronic music only.

Regarding the recording issue, I do know that you in fact CAN record directly into FL. Dr. Mean, I don't know how you missed it but it's quite an easy process if I understand it correctly. I myself don't have Producer edition, so I haven't done it personally but I know of quite a few people who do that.

Debunking the "FL only does techno music/loops claim..."
Check out my song "Vengeance" at www.soundclick.com/silverlineproductions
Perhaps a tad repetitive, but it was my first real orchestral attempt and I found FL no hinderance whatsoever.

Yeah I knew there was a way to do it. I just meant it's not particularly designed to do such a thing. But might you know how to do this? I'll look around the program for it.


Yes, FL studio can do anything. All the work on my site was done in FL studio, and it covers a wide variety of genres like funk, rock, jazz, classical, orchestral, and more. Really it's all in the plugin support a Fruity standard plugins, and FL is 5 stars when it comes to that.


If any of you use GPO, here's a possibility.

Load your GPO VST plugin. Set the port number (top right hand corner) to some number. Then make a MIDI channel and set the port to that same number. Then see all those blank knobs? Make them control whatever you want by rightclicking and configuring. In GPO, controlling the mod wheel is the most important for a realistic sound, and this is how I do my orchestrations. Most all VSTs can accept midi controller inputs.

So technically, FL could do anything.

Quote: - MalletKAT MIDI controller for input (I'm a percussionist)

Nice to see another pecussionist composer Muzo. They're rare. What do you play, just concert, or are you in to DCI and drumlines?



Doctor

Hardware:
-Powerbook G4
-M-Audio Keystation Pro 88
-Pair of E-MU PM5 Precision Monitors
-Tascam US-122 (audio/midi interface)
-Various mics (sm58s and sm57s mostly)

Software:
-Finale 2006 (with GPO)
-Reason 3
-Logic Express
-Drumcore
-MIDI Keyboard (Written by me)

Instruments:
-Gibson Acoustic Guitar
-Yamaha Pro Alto Saxophone
-Williams' Handmade Flute
-I also have access to an entire orchestra once a semester...

ok, am I the only one who still uses Sound Recorder?

I can't afford the music systems mentioned above...

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ok, am I the only one who still uses Sound Recorder?

I can't afford the music systems mentioned above...

The key to being able to afford the hardware/software is having a job (or two). My entire setup was NOT bought at one time, but over a period of years. There is also a difference between people who have an interest/hobby/profession in music. While most people on this site would be spending their money on the newest video card, we buy audio equipment/software. It also helps that I get Finale, Reason, and Logic free through my school... =)