hi, well as it happens I am having some problems understanding how to work linux .. I posted a topic on another site (abandonware actually) so here is a link: http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9160 hope thats okay.. thanks! (the questions are wine and hardware acceleration.. not DOSbox anymore)

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The only problem with your post here is that it has no actual information. Presumably the forum in question has all the information we need, but it is only accessible if you have an account.

All I know is that it has to do with Wine and possibly abandonware, so I could make a good guess that it has to do with how to get a specific application to run in Wine. Have you checked the Wine Wiki? Or the wine-db? Perhaps the application is listed there.

oh right, I was wondering why no-one was replying
sorry about that.. Ill copy my post here:

dont worry about DOSbox as I said as that was fixed, but the hardware acceleration needs seeing to

ok, I have some more linux questions for all of you slightly exasperated people out there.
Im making a new topic as these questions are about software/compatibility- not getting it installed

well I have debian 3.1r1 on my computer now, and I have learned a reasonable amount.. installing packages, playing games.. the included ones and a couple of admittedly fairly dull ones I installed (lincity for example, i hear theres a new version around- lincity-N or something)

well I have been trying to play transport tycoon deluxe. my #1 fav game my brother is addicted to it as well. I use (on this windows comp) the patched abandonia windows version... but whenever I put the file on a cd-rw and try and mount it it says it cannot be mounted as its posisbly not in the right format
so i got the DOS version, and dosbox for linux (good ol' debian cds)
the only problem is, and its quite a big one: dosbox runs INSANLEY slowly. you put the CPU cycles above 20k and its about 1 fps... is linux just slooooow at games?? SLOW AT 1995 GAMES?! :o
I think it may be beacuse the desktop is being drawn behind the DOS box window, its a long, long shot but I dont like having windowed dosbox anyway.. off I go to change the .conf file.. except I cant find it- can someone tell me where it is?

another thing: wine. a version came on cd (some alpha version). I installed it and it works with the gangsters: organised crime setup just superly. the installation whizzes by and I install directx 6 . I find gangsters in the applications menu under the section "." (why?) and run. the wine thing comes up and at first it said insert the cd but I changed the wine conf file with its configuration option for drive d to be /home/cdrom0 or whatever. now it says its exited with an error and in the log it says it cannot find c:\hothouse creations\gangsters\gangsters.EXE.
I cant find the directory where wine installs all this fake stuff so I am at a loss!
anyone help? the website said it worked..

is it possible to work WoW on linux??? i do freecraft (clone of WoW 2) but its lacking a bit:p

so my questions on compatibility and things
its not reeeallly about just DOS games so I wont put it in the compatibility section but do, do move it

oh and I still cant change Hard drive permissions

1 more thing:
when do you guys think packages.debian.org will be fixed

oops, heres another more up to date thread

I saw that gangsters bit, but I still cant get it to work, ah well..
ill keep trying

wow: "What Doesn't
The mouse can not select things. "
NOO!
anyone know any good linux MMOS?

WAIIIT
Im also having sound trouble
I know dosbox is ment to emulate sound blasters?
well I cant get any sound outta it at all
I can play a CD though, using some gnome CD player.. just other sounds seem to be a no-no

edit edit edit: I installed some nvidia drivers, nvidia something .glx and nvidia <kernal>
the kde packange thing said stuff about dependencies, and when I click any of the nv applications, nothing happens
ohh and also..
my fireworks screensaver is even slower now

Well...let's see what we can do.

Quote: the only problem is, and its quite a big one: dosbox runs INSANLEY slowly. you put the CPU cycles above 20k and its about 1 fps... is linux just slooooow at games?? SLOW AT 1995 GAMES?! :o

Actually, I've found that DosBox runs too slow or too quick depending on the clock cycles for games that were programmed to assume that processor speed wouldn't increase. Frame rate independent movement wasn't pushed hard back then. I think you can do CTRL+F12 and CTRL+F11 to increase/decrease the clock cycles, but I don't know well that has ever worked. I haven't used Dosbox for much myself.

Just now I checked the man page (man dosbox), and it says that you need to hit ALT+Enter to get full screen mode and back. It also gives you other tips for increasing the speed.

Quote: another thing: wine. a version came on cd (some alpha version). I installed it and it works with the gangsters: organised crime setup just superly. the installation whizzes by and I install directx 6 . I find gangsters in the applications menu under the section "." (why?) and run. the wine thing comes up and at first it said insert the cd but I changed the wine conf file with its configuration option for drive d to be /home/cdrom0 or whatever. now it says its exited with an error and in the log it says it cannot find c:\hothouse creations\gangsters\gangsters.EXE.
I cant find the directory where wine installs all this fake stuff so I am at a loss!
anyone help? the website said it worked..

Normally Wine installs files under your home directory in a hidden directory:

cd ~/.wine/

Under that directory, you should have your fake_windows and other directories and files. Do you know about hidden directories? Basically, any file with a '.' in front of it won't display in a listing unless you specify "Show me all files". For instance, if you do

ls

you'll see a listing of files, but

ls -a

will show all files, including hidden files.

Quote: is it possible to work WoW on linux??? i do freecraft (clone of WoW 2) but its lacking a bit:p

According to this link, yes...and no: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2581

Quote: oh and I still cant change Hard drive permissions

How do you mean? I am not familiar with your previous posts, but there are two things I can think of:

1) You want to change the actual mounted drive's permissions. Basically, you would want to remount it. Check the mount man page for options, such as ro for read-only, rw for read-write, and others. Most of the time, you shouldn't have to worry about doing this.

2) You want to change the permissions of an individual file. Check the man page for chmod. Let's say you want to change a downloaded install file so that it was executable on your system by you, the owner of the file, you would do:

chmod u+x file_name

Quote: WAIIIT
Im also having sound trouble
I know dosbox is ment to emulate sound blasters?
well I cant get any sound outta it at all
I can play a CD though, using some gnome CD player.. just other sounds seem to be a no-no

CD audio might not be output the same way as regular sound. I've generally found that until I run a mixer, like kmixer or something, I might have a problem with the audio. Once I run the mixer, I can change the volume or unmute or whatever might be the problem. Have you checked if you're running a mixer?

Quote: edit edit edit: I installed some nvidia drivers, nvidia something .glx and nvidia <kernal>
the kde packange thing said stuff about dependencies, and when I click any of the nv applications, nothing happens
ohh and also..
my fireworks screensaver is even slower now

I used to wonder about kernel compilation and how to install the Nvidia drivers, but these instructions are the best I've found. From dpkg on #debian in freenode:
http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The
Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with
some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set
NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable

But as for why it should be slower now that the driver is installed, check that you have nvidia-glx installed. The instructions mention it as well, but I found that once it is installed, hardware acceleration works well.

right
thanks for all the help GBgames, I looked on the website for graphics drivers and followed its instructions editng XF86Config as needed
now sadly gdm wont work so im stuck in text debian
looks like a re-install for me
ah well, it was my fault :(

Quote: Original post by Javaguychronox
right
thanks for all the help GBgames, I looked on the website for graphics drivers and followed its instructions editng XF86Config as needed
now sadly gdm wont work so im stuck in text debian
looks like a re-install for me
ah well, it was my fault :(

gdm won't work? How so? Is it bringing up your window manager/desktop environment and immediately shutting it down? You should check /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see what it says. It is sometimes hard to decipher, but it should shed some light on what it sees as a problem.

well, none of it will start.
I see the text login ,then the screen goes blank.. then to text... then blank
and it says gdm cant start...

Well this is a wild guess but if you mess up X (typically what happens when you poke into XF86Config), you also mess up everything relying on it, like GDM and your desktop.
Try using the xf86config to update the XF86Config file, until you find a usable configuration.
If you dont have the xf86config script, there is a chance you have the newer version xorgconfig

Before doing that you could ofcourse undo the stuff you did in XF86Config (or overwrite it with the backup copy you made), and see if you get back in.

EDIT:
If you are not familiar with the text based editors in linux, you can try nano editor. It quite easy to use.
# nano -w /etc/X11/XF86Config
Exit with ctrl+x -> y -> Enter

ANOTHER EDIT:
I just finished installing the nvidia drivers using this howto. (The easy way worked for me)
And acording to this forum, it is possible to play WOW in Linux using wine.
Im about to try it now... :p

[Edited by - pulpfist on January 23, 2006 8:05:59 PM]