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The laws are woven into the very fabric in the universe, threading through our mind and quasi stellar objects alike

Thats not entireley true, the laws are man made to fit experimental data and logic, in the language of mathematics. Which evolves to describe new patterns, logic and data as and when the challenge arises.

That doesnt mean the equations and language is woven into the fabric of the universe, that would be a very self-centered philosophy. It is just the best way ( that we have so far discovered ) to model, map and describe the universe and ( as by definition of language ) pass the information on for future ( and present ) generations.

I dont think you could ever prove that mathematics or the "laws" are the fabric of the universe, unless you were not part of that universe.

Maybe im mistaken.

Alice laughed, "There's no use trying," she said, "one can't believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."


The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it's queerer than we CAN imagine. -- JBS Haldane

Quote: Original post by Barking_Mad

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The laws are woven into the very fabric in the universe, threading through our mind and quasi stellar objects alike

Thats not entireley true, the laws are man made to fit experimental data and logic, in the language of mathematics. Which evolves to describe new patterns, logic and data as and when the challenge arises.

That doesnt mean the equations and language is woven into the fabric of the universe, that would be a very self-centered philosophy. It is just the best way ( that we have so far discovered ) to model, map and describe the universe and ( as by definition of language ) pass the information on for future ( and present ) generations.

I dont think you could ever prove that mathematics or the "laws" are the fabric of the universe, unless you were not part of that universe.

Maybe im mistaken.

To answer your question: Dwell not on trivial distinctions, good man, they but tie down your mind. Let go,cast your chains and take to the skies. There, amongst the clouds I am told, is where the great ideas dwell.

Alice laughed, "There's no use trying," she said, "one can't believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

============An anecdote of String Theory's History=====

"Well, I was just inventing a new way of getting over a gate - would you like to hear it? "

"Very much indeed," Alice said politely.

"I'll tell you how I came to think of it," said the Knight. "You see, I said to myself 'The only difficulty is with the feet: the head is high enough already.' Now first I put my head on top of the gate - then the head's high enough - then I stand on my head - and the feet are high enough, you see - then I'm over, you see?"

=================Conclusion====

The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it's queerer than we CAN imagine. -- JBS Haldane

EDIT - hmmm, how'd i manage that? Stupid fori. ohh well

[Edited by - Daerax on July 14, 2005 11:47:58 PM]

Brains are Parallel in Nature where as computers are sequential. due to this difference its sometimes more appropriate to model ANNs that are loosely based on real brain networks to be modelled on a machine that is ideally Analogue. However due to the processing power incressing it is no longer necessary.

bright future for AI.