I have leanred some basic c++, and some c, and I ran across something called Game Programming Starter Kit. It includes a 3D game engine, 3d modeler thing, and a visual c++ compiler. Would this be something good for newbies, or just a comeone? Thanks, jason

Probably not... you probably shoudn''t be mucking around with 3d stuff till after you''ve got a good grasp of C++, and had some experience with windows programming.