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Attacks, Bitching, etc.

Started by November 04, 2000 06:43 PM
64 comments, last by NeHe 24 years ago
Hmmm...
"If / When the site is back online there will no longer be a forum, that I know for sure. I put the forum on the site so the top notch programmers could help out those people that were struggling when I was not there for them, or when I was unable to help people out myself. Instead it''s turned into an anti-NeHe forum."
I have only seen once or twice anything on the forum that attacked Jeff... and there was that insecure guy who seemed to only be able to swear, but I think he''s gone now.

It''s a pity the site had to close, it was a nice site to learn GL stuff off... hopefully it will be back in future, if not, any chance of putting back up the existing tutorials and simply not updating??
I just wanted to say that i think you do an awesome job with your site. It is probably the best opengl site to goto if you want to learn opengl. And i recomend anyone that wants to learn it to check out your tutorials. I have learned a ton from your site and I believe that the tutorials you offered were the best commented and easiest to learn from. I was only hopeing someone could make a site like yours for D3D. I''m extremely sorry to hear that your site is closed down.. I think that is very sad and that we have lost a large resource. Are your tutorials atleast posted somewere else for people to look at? Because I really think they are an asset to this community. Anyway i know a lot of people who really thought your site was awesome. Don''t let all these negative posts get you down. There are alot of people out there who have no respect for what hard work it is. And i admire you alot. I presonnally have wanted to set up a tutorial site like yours but have been way to busy to keep up with all the work it takes to make a site and keep it updated. I wanted to thank you for all the time you have spent and sacrificed for us. It helped me out imensely and i''m sure others as well. Thanks for everything and i hope you will consider just leaving your site up there for now even if its not updated for people to be able to learn from. I''m sure there are a ton of people out there who appreciate your work as well... but just don''t voice there opinion while people who like cutting things down are more vocal. Thank you and i hope to see your site back up soon.

--FUEL

Founder Caffeinated Gameswww.caffeinatedgames.com
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This is bad i just started learning OpenGL about three weeks ago this site is not one of the best but "THE BEST" OpenGL sites I''ve ever visited on the net, and to se it down just makes me extremely angry. All tutorials and things are given to you all with out charge, code and all but yet you all want to bitch about the simplest things that make no sence. I have never seen someone so devoted to the people like NeHe. He works hard at keeping the site updated. To that 10% of imbeciles I abhor you all for treating NeHe the way you all did. And if you don''t know the meaning of abhor look it up in the dictionary, now if you want to know the meaning of imbecile than look in the mirror. NeHe I hope all gets better for you I wish the best man, and I hope you get the site back up for all the newbies like I who give this site aleast 10-20 hits a day. This site motivated me to learning OpenGL. I wake up at 5:30am in the moring to go to school I stay untile about 6:00 or 7:00pm than I ride the bus home; by the time I''m home it''s already 9:00pm so I do all my homework and in what little free time that I have I get on the computer and code in OpenGL. Before I even visites NeHe''s site I only new of DirectX, and when I found OpenGL I found a new love. To see this site go down is just ghastly. If I new how to code better than what I do now i would offer NeHe help but I don''t so all the trouble of updating it was left to NeHe who bent over backwards for all his visitors to keep the site looking good; he did all or aleast 70% of what the visitors requested him to do and in return for all that he has done for you all he gets crap back in return. O this is ugly you stoled the TGA file loading code blah, blah, blah, ok lets see you get off your but and look for 10 different ways to load a TGA file NO better yet 15 to make it better I bet you wouldn''t find 15 ways to load a Targa file. I loathe all that have done or said wrong towards NeHe. Jeff Molofee AKA: NeHe don''t close the site down keep it going keep the fire burning don''t put the fire out that will only show that 10% of idiots that they have accompolished their goal to make you (NeHe) close down NeHe Productions. Sorry for all the hatered in this letter, but I hate to see things i really like to just disappear, and for those of you that support NeHe this is not towards you but this Letter Is Twoards YOU All that given NeHe nothing but smart remarks and hate mail. This site was never started to make it a battle ground for crap liek hate mail, but it was started for those of you that like programming and want to know more about OpenGL this site was written for the inquisitive people and when I say inquisitive people I mean people that are eagared to learn more about OpenGL; people like me who stay glued to their monitor waiting for more news, demos. and tutorials from NeHe. Give the man some slack people he''s only but one man doing the job of 12 men; that I say is a hard working person that deserves the best, and the best is that your problems will disappear because your a good man NeHe.



Well this is me signing out a good Anonymous Poster.
Well, I''ll try to say it clearly:

AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
WHAT''S-GOING-ON??

I''m amazed. Ashtonished. I''ve never used this forum (I have no Internet at home), but I think now''s the moment. PLEASE, PLEASE, DON''T LEAVE US, Nehe. Your tutes have been the only good reference that I''ve found! If you leave me (us) alone, I (we) will NEVER be able to learn OpenGL. Really.

You are making a really GOOD site. And that''s not usual. I think what you are doing is a too nice thing that shouldn''t end because a couple of headcrabs crying!!

Don''t pay attention to them: Your page was simply wonderful.

Of course, if what you need is some kind of holidays, please take them. If for any reason you are coming to Seville (Spain) there will be a room for you at my home. OK?

Please! Please! Please! Hang on there!!


A spanish OpenGL Beginner.
A spanish OpenGL Beginner.
Well I never expected this. Jeff I can 100% relate to your plight. I get the same treatement at the CornflakeZone just not in the same volume. I wish you luck and my thoughts will be with you over the Christmas holidays.

I''m hoping we can get the tutorials back up? If anyone has them downloaded, send them to me and I''ll host them (with full credit to Jeff ). I found them invaluable when I was learning openGL and would hope people can still find them useful. In the interim I''d like to offer my services to the community. I have hosting, space etc. with no ads and zero revenue. It''s just something I do. The biggest thing I''ll miss is the news. It''s going to be so boring without anywhere to go now for news. If people want to send me stuff I''ll post it. mailto:mainflake@cornflakezone.com

The second it gets abusive I stop. Zero tolerance.

Take care Jeff,
fs

http://www.CornflakeZone.com
//-- Modelling and animation in every dimension --//
NEHE YOU SAD GIT EITHER TAKE THE SITE DOWN OR LEAVE IT UP JUST STOP ALL THIS PITY PARTY-ING AND WHINING.
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Hmm... it seems odd to me that fshana would post supporting NeHe, and then a few minutes later, make an anonymous post (the one above this) with the opposite sentiment.

Update: It seems one of fshana's coworkers played a joke on him, and has since admitted to posting that message using fshana's computer. As far as I'm concerned, fshana is a loyal NeHe supporter.

Jeff, send me an e-mail and let's talk about what we can do to keep the site up.

Edited by - Myopic Rhino on November 5, 2000 2:02:03 PM
What really amazes me is that i never hear about the problems in email. I did not even know everyone was flaming me until someone emailed me and said "don''t listen to the guys talking about you stealing code".

I was like "WHAT!?!". Then I go into the forum and yeah, 2 screens of flames. To top if off, people I talk to every day in email, people I would consider friends jumping in to say what a poor coder I am etc.

Then the thing that bothered me the most. People on #opengl basically getting together to talk about what a moron I am. What have I EVER done to any of these people? I would think they would like the site. Perhaps not for the tutorials, but because I''ve accomplished what I set out to do, and that was to get as many people interested in OpenGL as I could. At the moment, OpenGL is HUGE!!! I''m not saying my site had anything to do with that, but my site is involved in getting people interested!

In regards to my coding... it pisses me off that people cut down anything I do! My gf, my brother, anyone that knows me will tell you that I can sit down at any computer internet or not, and create a full blown GL demo in under 2 hours. Maybe my demos are not amazing, but if I can do that, I''m pretty sure I know how to code. If my coding style is bad, I''m very sorry, but I have NEVER taken programming courses, everything I know is self taught in just 3 years. As for me corrupting new programmers, I state everywhere on my site, that once people know the basics they should check out better sites, I have links galore on my page! I''m not forcing ANYONE to use my code. They don''t even have to use it to learn if they don''t want.

Aside from the tutorials everyone seems to hate so much, I offer the latest GL news, I feature just about anyones code, and I help about 40-200 people a day in email!

Plus as many of you know, I have helped you out with code for your games, demos, etc. Nothing expected in return.

Basically I''m just an average guy TRYING to make a site that everyone enjoys coming to. I''m trying to make things better every day. It seems the better I try to make the site, the more flaming I get!

It''s just crazy! If half these people that "hate" me would take the time to get to know me, or at least offer suggestions, point out problems, 90% of the complaining would stop, and I''m sure everyone would see that I''m not a bad guy. I''d do anything for a friend, and I''m pretty much the same way to my visitors!


Hi there Nehe,

This message goes out to you and not all these useless wankers who keep knocking you down.

You site has helped me out tremendously. I believe that you have what it takes !!! You are a damn good coder !! Ignore these guys who keep bitching !! Where are there demo''s, sites etc... ???

It is a known fact that jealousy makes a person nasty .. end of story.

I respect you so much, and visiting your site is an honor to all who choose to do so. You have so many loyal followers. Unfortunately not all can be pleased, so stuff them !!!

I do however believe that you should take a break to be with your family. You are very hard working, and I know that you put other ahead of yourself. You owe it to yourself to take a break.

My plea is that you reconsider about closing your site. If the forum is where you are getting flamed, then trash it, but not your site.

I would glady help you out with your site.

I am a owner of a nice site too, and I know what it is like to get flamed all the time.

Please mail me if you need help at all, I would gladly help.

Hang in there bro, and know that there are thousands of people who are your fans -- enough said.

Thanks
Erick Grove
Please see the "Thank you NeHe" post. You are one heck of a guy (in the best possible way). You are better than half the industry''s "best". You take your own time to help others. You deserve a heck of a lot, NeHe.

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