Quote: Original post by flukus
Yeas, you can run gnome apps from KDE, it's just requires that the libraries be installed, I'm kind of suprised that suse doesn't install them with the system.

It does. The Gtk2/Metacity libs are all installed by default, and Gnome apps will run on KDE. Note that Suse will not install the full Gnome suite by default. A simple click on the "Gnome Windowing system" in the software installation section will install the entire Gnome system (you can choose the desktop system to run at the login screen).

Suse is excellent at avoiding dependencies. If using Yast2, you won't ever be confronted with unresolved dependencies. Everything is resolved automagically. If you're a beginner, you might want to use Yast2's online update / online software installer to add software instead of doing it manually with RPMs. Yast2 will handle all dependencies transparently, and Suse is pretty good at keeping their software database uptodate.

Quote: Original post by ontheheap
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If you want to avoid depedency hell install slackware
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Without even reading the thread further, I must say that you are INSANE! edit: and it appears I wasn't the only one.

Quote: Original post by C-Junkie

Quote: Original post by ontheheap
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If you want to avoid depedency hell install slackware
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Without even reading the thread further, I must say that you are INSANE! edit: and it appears I wasn't the only one.

You didn't read far enough [grin].

Quote: Original post by ontheheap
I just can't believe I got rated down for saying something that I didn't think could possibly be taken serious [smile].

You guys need to stop obsessing over your ratings, and stop assuming that you know where your ratings came from. It's just naive.

Quote: Original post by Mayrel
Gnome and KDE use the same clipboard, because the clipboard lives in X.

Unfortunately, this truth has wrinkles to it. GNOME has always relied on the X clipboard, but KDE maintained its own for the longest while (perhaps an artifact of the Qt dependency?) The FreeDesktop.org Project finally applied enough pressure on KDE in the name of "unifying the Linux desktop" and "promoting interoperability" to rectify the situation.

Thankfully, this was fixed around KDE 3.0.

Quote: Original post by Oluseyi
You guys need to stop obsessing over your ratings, and stop assuming that you know where your ratings came from. It's just naive.

I'm going to rate you down for not using that weird i with two dots in naïve. [razz]

/jk

regarding the slackware comments:
While the slackware packaging system doesn't support dependency checking. There are thrid-party tools that does, like swaret and slack-get.

By using one of them, you get automatic dependency checking in slack too.


/Nico

That's great. Hopefully such a package will become part of standard Slack.

Quote: Original post by Oluseyi

Quote: Original post by Mayrel
Gnome and KDE use the same clipboard, because the clipboard lives in X.

Unfortunately, this truth has wrinkles to it. GNOME has always relied on the X clipboard, but KDE maintained its own for the longest while (perhaps an artifact of the Qt dependency?) The FreeDesktop.org Project finally applied enough pressure on KDE in the name of "unifying the Linux desktop" and "promoting interoperability" to rectify the situation.

Thankfully, this was fixed around KDE 3.0.

Ick. I didn't really use KDE until 3.0, so I was lucky enough that I never noticed. Although I suppose the fault really lies with Qt for not using the X clipboard.

Yeah Slackware doesn't have dependency checking so I wouldn't say we are out of dependency hell.. I would say the best Distro I have seen handle dependencies would be Gentoo. Their Portage system is sweet.

I use Slackware though and I haven't encountered any problems yet with dependencies. I don't really mind Slackware's package managing system since most of the time I know quite well what I am installing and what it uses.

As for the Window manager question. KDE and Gnome are not really Window Managers they are really Enviroments which have a lot of apps that do many different things. As far as I know apps written for KDE will work on Gnome and vice versa... I don't know about the configuration apps and a lot of the other KDE specific apps and the Gnome specific apps. But I really am not sure since I run Fluxbox :)

And Mayrel: I think Slack does come with slack-get and swaret... and if it doesn't they are really easy to get off the internet. They aren't perfect but they are nice.