And with regard to animating it, it seemed from the dojo scene that there were a finite number of stances/positions used. If you formalized it, it would really only take a dozen or so poses to cover every possible combination of firing angles. Elevation could be adjusted indefinitely, and each "pose" could cover 20 degrees or so of the windage. So if each arm was posed independently, with safeguards to preclude arm-through-arm clipping, you could conceivably have your Cleric free-style his way through the fight. It would take some serious work, but if the movie was any indication, the visual payoff is well worth it.

Tribute to Orwell and others it may have been, but it had a happy ending! That was completely contrary to the feeling of doom Orwell left you with that an emplaced totalitarian system could have. But the movie turns that on its head with one man and a couple of pistols, who kills the bad guy in a fast sword fight. By contrast, the hero ends up a broken man, broken under the threat of having rats eating his face, and later being executed. It was this Hollywood redoing that irked me.

Absolutely loved this flick.

Who knew that an American Psycho could be the savior of the post-apocalyptic world?

The movie was only shown twice in my town and then left. I found it by accident and after having seen it, I was scrambling to tell all my friends to go see it!

They had to wait till I got it on DVD and we had a mass showing. It floored them.

Translating it to a game would be really interesting.

Oh well, you picked one of my favorite movies to gush over.



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Syphoon : I think the reason I wasnt as distraught as you are by the Hollywoodesque happy ending (and if you have ever read anything I posted in the past, I have a long history of anti Americanism/Hollywood) was that it is more, well, kinda beautiful.
I like the theme of redemption very very much, such as can be seen in Bad Lieutnant. And this is what happens in Equilibrium.
A real bad ass bad guy whose son is so well indoctrinated that he is probably gonna be even more of a bad ass when he grows up, starts the movie by killing his long time colleague. Then you discover that he killed (effectively) his wife ! Under the nose of his children !
Then he awakens.
Gee, I just loved seeing the emotional breakdown/awakening of the man, realising what a piece of trash he is.
Man, he doesnt even get to save the girl, you gotta give credits to the writers for avoiding such a cliche !
The fact that he brings down the system just really worked for me. I agree that it would have been beautiful if he had died, sacrificing himself to destroy what he had so long been the greatest representative of, but you have to admit it would have been slightly artificial and would have left the loose end of the kids, unlike in Gladiator where MAximus really has nothing to lose anymore.

Nah, brilliant movie Sod the critics, if I listened to them, I would only watch fucking Hollywood blocksuckers and miss all the good stuff.

Iron Chef Carnage : ROFLMAO :D
I love the way you put it, man. Plus your analysis of Persephone is right on target. Did you know Merovingian was the grandfather of the first French king ? I''ve no idea why they would call him that except to say he is VERY old and French, but hey, as long as I get to show off my encyclopedic knowledge, eh


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What he said!

Maybe to do such a move and have to have skill to use it, you can impliment the system that Shenmune used to execute parts of the kata. I think something like that would have to be a combo.

Syphoon, just because it borrows elements from Orwell doesn''t mean it has to use the same ending. I liked the ending, although I''d have liked to see what bizarre sequence of events culminated in Preston actually getting nicked. Lucky shot? Was he fighting a battalion? Did he take a break for a quick shave? And what about the other gun clerics? Sure, he was the best, but there must have been a few guys left who knew enough gun kata to stand against him.

And it did have the horrible Hollywood cliche of Stormtroopers. Those supercops were killing scores of revolutionaries all through the movie, but as soon as Preston whacks the boss man, they can''t even get their guns up in time to fire back. I don''t think a single rebel died in that last scene. Some of the soldiers died before they even came around the corner. Silly. But way fun.

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Syphoon, just because it borrows elements from Orwell doesn''t mean it has to use the same ending. I liked the ending, although I''d have liked to see what bizarre sequence of events culminated in Preston actually getting nicked. Lucky shot? Was he fighting a battalion? Did he take a break for a quick shave? And what about the other gun clerics? Sure, he was the best, but there must have been a few guys left who knew enough gun kata to stand against him.

And it did have the horrible Hollywood cliche of Stormtroopers. Those supercops were killing scores of revolutionaries all through the movie, but as soon as Preston whacks the boss man, they can''t even get their guns up in time to fire back. I don''t think a single rebel died in that last scene. Some of the soldiers died before they even came around the corner. Silly. But way fun.

maybe the rebels ate the DBZ Sensu Bean.....hei its the future anything can happen

The other thing some forget about is the bigger picture that is presented by the stories of Matrix and Equilibrium. 1)There are more plotlines to be told in each universe. In the matrix, there are still humans in the Matrix, that may or may not want to be liberated. Then there are humans that can''t forgive the machines and will rebel against the counsel thus another war is started. In Equilibrium you have the fact that only that one city-state was liberated. So you have to consider what happens when the other city-states find out. Thus you have more to that as rebels there try to hook up with the liberated state.

Yeah, my friends and I have postulated about the future of a few movie universes.

Now on the topic, someone said that there was only a few moves in the repetoire of GunKata. I beg to differ, consider this if you watch the film you''ll see that the style changes depending on the weapon and situation. Compare the shotgun fight, the puppy fight, and the assault on the Ministry. The other thing that a lot of people may forget is that what makes an action film seem cool is the reaction of the victim. So that ragdoll physics suggestion would definitely be necessary. Look at Max Payne 2 as oppose to Metal Gear Solid 2.

Sine the govenment was the only form of media. That would mean that other cities would never find out about the uprising and the city itself would probably have been destroyed and its citizens slautered to prevent anarchy from spreading. That is assuming that there are other cites in the world.

In the matrix, I belive there was only the single city in which the movie took place in.

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