"GTA is different "
yea really something new. Its never been done before GTA in
a game called POSTAL has it? of course not.
GTA is just POSTAL in 3d with a cheap boring overdone gangster "story".

"most of the people killed in these games are fellow crimminals "
So you throw in a ganster story and suddenly its "ok"
to murder people? And nothing stops you from killing hookers in GTA or running over just about anyone.. yea they deserved it alright..

"maybe have rape as a feature in the serial killer game?"
Its getting to be sad how people try to top one another.
I won''t buy that game and I''ll bomb the makers.

"this serial killing wouldn''t be so bad because, well, let''s face it, serial killers do exist"
so do theives, rapists,kid molesters, and other wastes of life.
do you really want to play as some dumbass loser? I''d rather be a hero.. any ass can kill people, it takes someone special to save them.

"Don''t you think there is already too much killing in the entertainment industry?"
I do. Making games like this is not going to help things. I don''t think there is anything funny or cool about killing innocent people, and you have issues if you do.
hmm, maybe someone should kill you and see how hard you laugh about it?!

"THE PEOPLE ARE MADE OF PIXELS"
well Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny are made of ink,
yet kids relate to them, and mimick what they do..
It''s the idea of it, not whether or not its "real"
you''re putting images of murder into their head and desensitizing them to death, so it can''t be good..

"Every game is given a rating for a reason"
"these games are not created for our youth."
the rating system is bullshit. Kids DO play these games.

"this idea would be different, because it isn''t moral!"
It''s also uninspired and uninteresting.
People write those stories because a game like you want would be pretty boring to most people.. I guess you must be easily amused?

"Games are an escape from reality."
The more realistic they become the more they SIMULATE reality.

"They are things that you would and shouldn''t ever do in real life, but they are entertaining nonetheless."
Ok then how about SIM-smack your nuts with a spiked bat?
That I would never, and should never do, but maybe it will be fun?
Plus its more original than any of your ideas. I''d buy "smack the nutsack" wouldnt you?!

"Kids get shot in our schools"
And you wonder why..?

"A normal person will be able to tell the real from the fake."
Um who is normal? Nobody I know. Also kids are more impressionable than adults.

"how can we trust them to teach their children right from wrong
and make sure that they dont play inappropriate games? WE CANT"
Making stupid games like this isn''t going to help.

"Oh, and im sorry about your precious America - who''s to say that old George sitting on his ass in the white house isn''t a terrorist? A terrorist is a person who invokes terror into others. And im sure he enjoyed doing that to the innocent people that got slaughtered over in iraq, and soon to be north korea"

Fuk off you dumb aussie prick! You don''t know shit about USA you live way the fuk in australia so shut your ass up.
Oh yea these fuckers who try to bomb us and chant "down with america" and build nuclear bombs to sell to saddam, sure they are completly innocent. Why don''t you go read the news before you start making dumbass comments?

"My little brother (8 years old) watches horror movies and
plays violent games but he is a very peaceful and calm kid,
and helps people when ever he can."
You know what they say, it''s always the quiet ones.
I''d sleep with one eye open if I was you!

"If there were nothing but ho-hum "play the hero" games"
Oh you mean like Final Fantasy? Or the other thousands of classics with better stories and more interesting characters and gameplay than a mindless murder "game" ? yea ho hum, another great game..

"Should we stop making cars for people with drivers licenses
because some 13-year-old without a drivers license "
Umm last time I looked there are tons of cops waiting to pull dumb fucks like that over. That is a system that actually works.
Yet the same kid can go buy POSTAL and laugh about it..

"Who''s to say violent games don''t have a positive effect?"
anyone with a brain?

"Maybe some people don''t think non-violent games are as fun?"
Then maybe you are a sad, evil person, and should be locked up?!

You call that sadistic?

Wow.....you people have yet seen my ideas.........

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^^ Oooh, scary animals. How sadistic.

quote: Originally posted by Zao Martyr
Because I never told MillaTime not to make a violent video-game... I just questioned his reasoning behind it. And speaking of which, he (or anyone who thinks they can) has yet to answer it.

Well, he''s tried answering it. You just don''t like the answer. He said because they''re fun. Plain and simple. All games and movies and all other forms of entertainment are made to entertain. And violent games do. Now, don''t ask why we can''t just make something non-violent, because we don''t want to...plain and simple.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Don''t you think there is already too much killing in the entertainment industry?"
I do. Making games like this is not going to help things. I don''t think there is anything funny or cool about killing innocent people, and you have issues if you do.
hmm, maybe someone should kill you and see how hard you laugh about it?!

I don''t find anything funny or cool about killing innocent people, either. But, on a game my views change. It''s fun, it''s a game, it''s not real. And, I think we would all get a good laugh if somebody killed me.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Every game is given a rating for a reason"
"these games are not created for our youth."
the rating system is bullshit. Kids DO play these games.

Yes, we''ve established that.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Games are an escape from reality."
The more realistic they become the more they SIMULATE reality.

All the more reason to use them to escape from reality, eh?

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
Ok then how about SIM-smack your nuts with a spiked bat?

Sounds like a fun game to me. Especially if the guy like fell on the floor and his nuts got big and exploded and stuff. Oh, that''d be a sweet game.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Kids get shot in our schools"
And you wonder why..?

Well, no, not really. I''ve never really wondered why. Just figured they felt like it.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
Fuk off you dumb aussie prick! You don''t know shit about USA you live way the fuk in australia so shut your ass up.
Oh yea these fuckers who try to bomb us and chant "down with america" and build nuclear bombs to sell to saddam, sure they are completly innocent. Why don''t you go read the news before you start making dumbass comments?

WHOOOO! Finally I agree with somethin you said! GO AMERICA!

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Who''s to say violent games don''t have a positive effect?"
anyone with a brain?

Thank you. Thanks to your wonderful opinions about this, I have now decided to retract that from this whole topic. What was I thinking saying something like that? I''m glad you set me straight.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"Maybe some people don''t think non-violent games are as fun?"
Then maybe you are a sad, evil person, and should be locked up?!

Or maybe they just like violent video games. I like violent games, but am I sad, evil, and in need of lock-up? No, sir, I''m just normal, thank you.

I hope I said everything I wanted to for now.

Moose

The antagonist in my video game is a child snatcher and a child molester. He also murdered his parents and one of the other bad guys uses it''s sexual organs for a special attack(can''t say the name here).

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" It''s fun, it''s a game, it''s not real. "
Maybe people know that it''s fake, but it still gives them bad ideas and images and just makes them look "good" because its only an innocent little computer game..

"I think we would all get a good laugh if somebody killed me."
I''d laugh really hard.

" Kids DO play these games. Yes, we''ve established that."
So you admit you know kids play it and you still are making it? HMm maybe some lawyers should look into that one.. Like building a spaceship you know for a fact will crash..

"All the more reason to use them to escape from reality, eh?"
if thats what you really want to do be my guest. reality doesnt like you anyways.
Me, I prefer to drink lots of alcohol.

"I like violent games, but am I sad, evil, and in need of lock-up? No, sir, I''m just normal, thank you."
Of course you are.. Charles Manson tried telling people that one too, it never worked.


"The antagonist in my video game is a child snatcher and a child molester. He also murdered his parents and one of the other bad guys uses it''s sexual organs for a special attack(can''t say the name here). "
Nice idea. Was this inspired by your personal diary ? I bet it is.

Damn APs....

quote: Original post by Zhypoh
Well you idea isn''t much worse then GTA, so I would say yes, people would buy it. However, if you ever released this game, and it did well you would be the media''s scapegoat for every teenage killer for a while.

- Zhypoh!

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quote: Original post by funvill
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lol, true! And yeah, a mod needs to get rid of that AP...all he''s doing is proving that he''s the one who should not be playing violent games because he''s...immature.

DON''T COPY THAT FLOPPY!

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
" Kids DO play these games. Yes, we''ve established that."
So you admit you know kids play it and you still are making it? HMm maybe some lawyers should look into that one.. Like building a spaceship you know for a fact will crash..

Well, duh, kids are gonna play ''em. But the things on their to guide the parents to what games should and shouldn''t be played by their child. I mean, tobacco companies KNOW that kids smoke, MANY kids smoke, but are they gonna stop making their product? NO! Why? Because they can SELL it! Profit.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"All the more reason to use them to escape from reality, eh?"
if thats what you really want to do be my guest. reality doesnt like you anyways.
Me, I prefer to drink lots of alcohol.

Haha! You''re trying to make us feel guilty and playing/making violent games and here you are saying you drink a lot. Yes, that''s probably the safest pasttime.

quote: Originally posted by Anonymous Poster
"I like violent games, but am I sad, evil, and in need of lock-up? No, sir, I''m just normal, thank you."
Of course you are.. Charles Manson tried telling people that one too, it never worked.

Wow, thank you for comparing me to Charles Manson when you don''t even know me.

Damn, I thought I hated Zao Martyr, but at least he made sense and actually backed up his opinions. You''re just an idiotic, anonymous poster.

Moose

"I mean, tobacco companies.."
Shut up. I know plenty of kids who still obtain and smoke cigs, and the gas station is much more likely to check ID for cigs than WalMart is for a video game. Also cigs have never been suspected to cause or influence people to go on real life killing sprees. Video games on the other hand...

"You''re trying to make us feel guilty and here you are saying you drink a lot. Yes, that''s probably the safest pasttime."
Who''s immature? Are you even old enough to drink yet?
What does drinking have to do with enjoying interactive murder? Don''t be dumb kid. I can handle my liquor, kids can''t handle violent games..

"..you don''t even know me.."
No, I don''t know either of you. Yet I can just imagine your creepy ass over there chanting "I wanna kill people!!! I don''t care if they''re real or not I gotta kill em all!!! AAHHhaha!!!"
Sorry I don''t know about many real serial killers, I''m not as interested in it as you.. maybe you''de like to be called Dahmer instead? Pick your favorite and go with it. I do believe playing violent mindless murder games could definatly be fun to someone like that(you?!).

"You''re just an idiotic, anonymous poster"
Of course I am. Anyone who thinks different than you must be idiotic, in your small demented mind..