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EDIT #2: Mouse works! I needed to insmod mousedev. Will I have to do that each time it boots? How to I get it to automatically do that?

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As root: echo mousedev >> /etc/modules

Or use modconf (as root also).

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Blah, KDE! I need to get Gnome working. I guess now I need to get it to mount my Windows partition. And how to I make it apt-get the latest version of something, not an older version?

<SPAN CLASS=editedby>[edited by - BradDaBug on June 26, 2003 3:51:11 PM]</SPAN>

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mount -t vfat /dev/yourwindowspartition /mnt/windows

That''s assuming you''re using FAT32 and that you want to mount it under /mnt/windows. You can add it to /etc/fstab so that it is mounted at boot time (man fstab).

Apt-get will always fetch the latest version unless you specify a version yourself or use priorities. If you mean "upgrade to unstable", simply edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the "stable" to "unstable". Then type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.

Finally, if you want to install the (almost) full Gnome environment, apt-get install gnome.


Hope this helps.

Welcome to the wonderful world of apt =)

Victor.

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OK, here goes nothing. I''m about to reboot with CD 1 and try this again.

EDIT #1: OK, it''s installed, and this time I got to choose the filesystem! (i picked Reiser btw; ext2 and 3 haven''t impressed me all that much) But my mouse isn''t working. Doh! I did what I did last time (insmod usb-uhci) and it was already loaded. cat /dev/input/mice says the device doesn''t exist.

EDIT #2: Mouse works! I needed to insmod mousedev. Will I have to do that each time it boots? How to I get it to automatically do that? Blah, KDE! I need to get Gnome working. I guess now I need to get it to mount my Windows partition. And how to I make it apt-get the latest version of something, not an older version?

[edited by - BradDaBug on June 26, 2003 3:51:11 PM]

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You could also try kudzu instead of doing insmod. Kudzu tries to detect/configure the hw for you. Just:

apt-get install kudzu

After install, run ''kudzu'', and that''s it.

Victor.

Hey, this is working out pretty well!

I''ve gotten my mouse working perfectly now! Thanks!

I added the unstable sources to the apt-get sources list and i think I upgraded to libc 2.3, but I''m not sure. It seemed way too easy. I''ve toyed with upgrading some other stuff (gaim, mozilla) but gaim has broken dependencies and mozilla has a huge list of other stuff that needs to be upgraded, so i''m kinda scared to do that just yet. and the dist-upgrade thingy scared me too. Do I want to do something that extreme to my poor little Debian installation that actually works ok?

And it''s started booting Gnome! I don''t know what I did to make it do that, but I appreciate it, whatever it was. Maybe I''m just that good, right?

BUT, it still isn''t working perfectly yet. It''ll mount my windows partition now, but it''s not setting the permissions I want. Regular users can''t access the partition. I''ve did "chmod 755" on /mnt/windows when the drive wasn''t mounted, but then when it''s mounted it goes back to 744. If I try to do it when it''s mounted it has no effect, it stays 744.

At some point I''m gonna have to install the NVidia drivers. How much fun is that?

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Original post by BradDaBug
BUT, it still isn't working perfectly yet. It'll mount my windows partition now, but it's not setting the permissions I want. Regular users can't access the partition. I've did "chmod 755" on /mnt/windows when the drive wasn't mounted, but then when it's mounted it goes back to 744. If I try to do it when it's mounted it has no effect, it stays 744.

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That's perfectly normal and there's a couple ways to handle that (that you could have found in "man mount", btw). Add one or more of the following "options" to fstab or after "mount" preceded by "-o " when you execute it:

• uid=user-name to own mounted filesystem


• gid=name of group for mounted filesystem


• users ("Allow every user to mount and unmount the file system.")


• umask=bitmask ("the bitmask of the permissions that are not present")

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Original post by BradDaBug
At some point I'm gonna have to install the NVidia drivers. How much fun is that?

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To do it the "Debian way"?

1. apt-get install kernel-headers-version nvidia-kernel-src nvidia-glx-src


2. Read the instructions in /usr/share/docs/nvidia-*-src for more information.

It's easy to repeat once you've done it before, and not that bad the first time.

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Original post by BradDaBug
I added the unstable sources to the apt-get sources list and i think I upgraded to libc 2.3, but I'm not sure. It seemed way too easy.

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Probably, that's what unstable is using now.

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I've toyed with upgrading some other stuff (gaim, mozilla) but gaim has broken dependencies and mozilla has a huge list of other stuff that needs to be upgraded, so i'm kinda scared to do that just yet.

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GAIM (or more likely something it depends on) is probably temporarily weirded in unstable, try again tomorrow or get GAIM from testing (Sarge). Don't worry about Mozilla, update it if you want to, it shouldn't hurt anything. (Also, make sure you apt-get update once a day or so in unstable before apt-getting stuff, generally.)

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Original post by BradDaBug
And the dist-upgrade thingy scared me too. Do I want to do something that extreme to my poor little Debian installation that actually works ok?

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The dist-upgrade option is almost like upgrade except that it will add new packages to be installed that it thinks you should have. Generally, doing a full apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade isn't advisable in unstable because you'll end up downloading more than you need (new kernel versions and such, sometimes).

Edit: replied to more stuff.



[edited by - Null and Void on June 27, 2003 2:33:34 AM]

You said you haven't dist-upgraded your system, but your sources.list has unstable mirrors. That'll make you system a "mix" of stable(what's already installed)/unstable(what you will install), which i don't think it's a good idea. That's probably why you had those dependencies on GAIM.

I think you should dist-upgrade, so that you'd became an unstable version, and you'd be able to install the unstable packages easily. Don't be afraid =)

(if you decide to do dist-upgrade to unstable, don't forget to remove the stable mirrors on your sources.list...)

Once when i did dist-upgrade i had some problems, and apt suggested me to use some force option, and i did that, and it worked fine. It'll work fine

Victor.

[edited by - -vic- on June 27, 2003 11:59:42 AM]

Ah, the Windows partition mounting works perfectly now! Thanks!

OK, I upgraded to Mozilla 1.3! But now all the fonts are anti-aliased. I liked it better before when it used just standard fonts that everything else used.

Wait! I just upgraded to the latest version of Gaim! I guess it''s working now. The fonts look the same for it as they do in Mozilla, so I guess its a GTK 2.0 thing. Is there a way to go back to the old fonts?

When I do "apt-get install gnome" it downloads a bunch of stuff but then says "Internal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules." What does that mean? Will it work tomorow?

The sound seems kinda wierd. When Gnome first loaded, it was looping through this garbage sound. I killed and reran ESD and it works fine now. What''s up with that?

I apt-get''ed the 2.4.20 headers (what I think/hope I''m using) and that seems to have worked, but when I try to get nvidia-kernel-src or nvidia-glx-src it says it couldn''t find the package. Works tomorow?

Debian seems pretty cool so far. I actually kinda like being in control instead of some config program. I mean, I like how easy configuring Windows is compared to Linux, but it seems like none of the easy configuration thingies for Linux work too well.

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Ah, the Windows partition mounting works perfectly now! Thanks!

OK, I upgraded to Mozilla 1.3! But now all the fonts are anti-aliased. I liked it better before when it used just standard fonts that everything else used.

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What?? You don''t like anti-aliased fonts?? How come?Everybody loves antialised fonts...

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Wait! I just upgraded to the latest version of Gaim! I guess it''s working now. The fonts look the same for it as they do in Mozilla, so I guess its a GTK 2.0 thing. Is there a way to go back to the old fonts?

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How did you manage to upgrade Gaim?

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When I do "apt-get install gnome" it downloads a bunch of stuff but then says "Internal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules." What does that mean? Will it work tomorow?

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Maybe it''ll work tomorrow, maybe not... Did it mention anything about some ForceLoop-Break option? If it did, then you can try (at your own risk! ) taking this option... i''ve done this once, and it didn''t cause many problems, but you never know.

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The sound seems kinda wierd. When Gnome first loaded, it was looping through this garbage sound. I killed and reran ESD and it works fine now. What''s up with that?

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Have no idea...

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I apt-get''ed the 2.4.20 headers (what I think/hope I''m using) and that seems to have worked, but when I try to get nvidia-kernel-src or nvidia-glx-src it says it couldn''t find the package. Works tomorow?

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Can''t help at that either... you are starting to get to a level where Google is your best friend =)

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Debian seems pretty cool so far. I actually kinda like being in control instead of some config program. I mean, I like how easy configuring Windows is compared to Linux, but it seems like none of the easy configuration thingies for Linux work too well.

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lol...

Victor.

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Original post by BradDaBug
Wait! I just upgraded to the latest version of Gaim! I guess it''s working now. The fonts look the same for it as they do in Mozilla, so I guess its a GTK 2.0 thing. Is there a way to go back to the old fonts?

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Use the font dialog in Gnome to mess with the font rendering. I suggest you install ttf-bitstream-vera for some nice default fonts too. If you care at all: there are lots of GTK+/Gnome themes in Debian''s repository with the prefixes gtk-engines and gtk2-engines (apt-cache search some-prefix for a list).

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When I do "apt-get install gnome" it downloads a bunch of stuff but then says "Internal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-modules." What does that mean? Will it work tomorow?

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I don''t think I''ve seen that one. I''m not sure about that. I''m running an almost completely up-to-date Debian unstable and PAM didn''t have any problems installing for me. Well, that''s why it''s unstable, I guess .

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The sound seems kinda wierd. When Gnome first loaded, it was looping through this garbage sound. I killed and reran ESD and it works fine now. What''s up with that?

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Don''t know. I could just be ESD. If you had a previous Gnome 1.x version installed Debian tries to convert your Gnome settings and use them in Gnome 2.x, but it doesn''t always work completely correctly; that might be it too, if you had 1.4 installed.

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I apt-get''ed the 2.4.20 headers (what I think/hope I''m using) and that seems to have worked, but when I try to get nvidia-kernel-src or nvidia-glx-src it says it couldn''t find the package. Works tomorow?

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No, you need to add the non-free Debian repository to your apt/sources.list file to have access to those files (they aren''t open source, so they can''t be in the main Debian repository). You''ll have a line like this in your sources.list, make sure non-free (and contrib, if you want) is on it:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

If you want an overly verbose rewrite of the Debian documentation on how to install the closed NVidia drivers, I gave instructions in this thread.

By the way, if you want a graphical interface to APT I suggest synaptic.

Heh,

No offense, but a ton of this shit is readily available within the man pages and in about 90000 bajillion FAQs and HOW-TO''s that are probably a ''I''m feeling lucky'' away via Google.

Glad to see you''re polishing up your stuff, however.

.zfod