You guys correct me if I''m wrong buy as far as I know, booting into run level 3 is better than booting into level 5. If a program in X windows hangs you can do a ctrl+alt+backspace and X will be killed and you will be put back in the console. If you boot into run level 5. The same sequence will do a forced immediate shutdown without unmounting the files system or anything. I would go through the inconvenience of typing startx in the beginning so I could use ctrl+alt+backspace especially if you are going to be doing programming.

That''s why I prefer to boot in level 3 instead of 4, but as long as you don''t do extraordinary stressing stuff everything should work fine when you boot in 4. (5 is 4 in slack, 5 is unused)

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yeah i guess you guys are right

thanks guys for all your help, but my friend is burning the ISOs to the CDs. im so excited to try out RedHat 9!

THANKS FOR THE HELP EVERYONE.

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Original post by grady
You guys correct me if I''m wrong buy as far as I know, booting into run level 3 is better than booting into level 5. If a program in X windows hangs you can do a ctrl+alt+backspace and X will be killed and you will be put back in the console. If you boot into run level 5. The same sequence will do a forced immediate shutdown without unmounting the files system or anything.

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No, that''s totally wrong. init will try a few more times to spawn X, then disable X for a few minutes. Then you can just use a different virtual console to do stuff.

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How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

Well, I know on my computer which is pretty much just factory settings for a redhat 8.0 install, ctrl alt backspace makes the computer go dead. It doesn''t try anything. Maybe there are some differing settings somewhere on our respective distributions that are making my computer do the stupid thing when I ctrl alt backspace.

I have a question know though. How can you force a file system check every time I reboot? Mine only does it every 30 reboots or something, and if I get shut down without a file system unmount, it only gives me a 5 second window or so when its booting up to "press any key for a filesystem check" I want it to do a check everytime i reboot because I''m only rebooting when the electricty goes out, which is often during this time of year where I live because of the thunder storms

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Original post by grady
Well, I know on my computer which is pretty much just factory settings for a redhat 8.0 install, ctrl alt backspace makes the computer go dead. It doesn''t try anything.

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Try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6 while looking at the black screen.

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I have a question know though. How can you force a file system check every time I reboot? Mine only does it every 30 reboots or something, and if I get shut down without a file system unmount, it only gives me a 5 second window or so when its booting up to "press any key for a filesystem check" I want it to do a check everytime i reboot because I''m only rebooting when the electricty goes out, which is often during this time of year where I live because of the thunder storms

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Your computer should force a filesystem check whenever your system does not shut down cleanly (i.e. the disks are not unmounted and synced).

Oh, and FYI: I unplug my computer in thunderstorms. I''ve seen what happens to them.

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How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

Snef, I don''t think it forces an FS check if you''re running a journaling FS like ext3 or Reiser.

As for how to change the frequency of it... There''s a way to do it somehow with a file... I just don''t remember which one in /etc.

Alternatively, you can boot into single user mode (there''s a boot parameter you can pass to lilo to do this, I believe) and have your fs mounted read-only, in which you can run fsck manually... I don''t remember the exact procedure, but I''m sure after 5-10 minutes of googling, you can find it.

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Original post by CmndrM
Snef, I don't think it forces an FS check if you're running a journaling FS like ext3 or Reiser.

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No, but it does recover from the journal, which is "good enough" in most cases.

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As for how to change the frequency of it... There's a way to do it somehow with a file... I just don't remember which one in /etc.

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IIRC, you set a flag present on the partition itself. There's a utility you use to do this..... errrrm...... tune2fs! use tune2fs.

[edited by - sneftel on June 18, 2003 1:12:27 PM]

That''s right. Forgot