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Original post by ahw
Mac is for retar... I mean, design students.

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Hah hah.... riiiiiiggghhhtt... Keep thinkin that buddy

Anywho... I haven''t used combustion much. I mostly use After Effects. Its not too hard to learn... the difficulty is that the interface sucks. If you can find a friend that knows how to use it, you can get it down in about fifteen minutes to a half an hour. On your own, it can be a bit of a pain figuring out where everything is (the interface is a bit counter-intuitive).

Another trick about after effects is it really doesn''t MAKE anything. It composites it... So, you''ll still make ALL your content (even the text) in photoshop. AE lets you make text, but the quality is horrible.

Yeah, I have After Effects 4.0 for the PC though. I was asking about Mac vs. PC because of stability and performance issues. Being that I know how to put together a PC, I built one for myself, and I''ve used brand name ones as well. I won''t go back to Compac, HP, or Dell ever again. I''ve used an older Mac before, when they just came out with the G4 chips -- the quality is much better in my opinion. I used Premire 6.0 on both systems and the Mac version was far more stable and productive than the PC version. It may have something to do with how I configured the PC, but I still like the plug and play feel you get from a Mac. I never did any 3d graphics with a Mac, but I suppose that looks even better too (because of appeature ratio, better monitor, and the fact that everything was specificly designed to do what you want it to do.) I like PCs better for buisiness and gameplay and a Mac better for game content creation. So, perhaps it''s better to have both, but I just want to know what you think is good.

I have used both and I can safly say that I HATE MAC SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH gives me sooo many problems!!!! BAAAAH!!!!!!!
I went to school (colledge and macs we had to use 2/3 of the time I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!

imo, use macs if u are doing anything graphical other than high-end 3d. honestly, anyone serious about grahic design would use a mac. not that i use a mac myself (i'm not a graphic designer), but let's face it, graphics is the only thing they are good for.

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i know plenty of graphic designers, and they *all* use macs for their work. conversely, everyone else i know that uses computers for business or pleasure uses pcs.

[edited by - jorgander on May 23, 2003 2:32:00 AM]

Do you have a Mac?? Yes? Then use a Mac. No? Then use what you have. Unless your PC is a bit older, it will be fine. I used a Mac at school in my 3D classes (2D too). I then took my work home and did it just as well as everyone else on my PC. I''m comfortable on my PC and that''s why I use it. If you like your PC then use it, it won''t inable you from doing anything. It sounds like you''re just looking for any excuse to switch. If that''s the case, go to LINUX! (no software support, but great stability!) Seriously, just go with what you''re comfortable with and what you know. Also if you have a perfectly good PC you''ll have more money to spend on software and other equipment if you''re not draining your bank account on a Mac.

Just Smile and Nod...

I just want to know what to use if I''m to look "professional" in the graphics and 3d animation world. If it''s all about software, I''ll go for something cheap, but if it has something to do with both, then I want to know what to get to be concitered "professsional" (with the exception of my mad skillz.)

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Original post by jorgander
i know plenty of graphic designers, and they *all* use macs for their work. conversely, everyone else i know that uses computers for business or pleasure uses pcs.

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Mmmmh ... I was gonna say that''s because Mac is for retards, but let''s face it, that''s unfair (although it''s technically true, those machines ARE designed so the terminally stupid can still use them)

Really, the reason is that Mac is the de facto standard in the printing industry, which is tightly linked with the graphic design industry. So the future graphic designers, in order to learn what''s up to date, ended up learning the Mac software (which at the time weren''t as easily available to PC).
Then you end up with Mac becoming the de facto standard for the graphic design teaching...
and because it''s so simple to use, it proves particularly practical, because graphic designers should not be spending their time learning how to use the damn machines, rather they should be learning how to *design*.

Now that I have been fair to Macs (and let''s face it, they are good machines, with lots of software in graphic design and such), I can give my opinion

Smiley : my experience with people working in the industry is that *they dont give a shit* about what machine you work in.
What they want, most of the time, is experience in some software or other. For instance, one of my mates here was applying for a job in a design agency, and they asked for Quark XPress experience, which you could only get on the Mac.
However, one of my other friends who has been in the 3D industry for the last years started on PC with 3DSMax, never used a Mac in is entire life, learned on a pirated version (and told so to his employers), had never had any formal Arts education (he was doing Networks and Telecoms, like me) and yet he was taken for a job as a 3D Animator/Modeller, and has been there since.
Why ? Because of his mad skillz of course

So dont fixate so much on the machine, it *is* a technical detail. What matters is the amount of experience you can acquire.
You got tons of money and you want to get a Mac because you have no clue how PCs work and you dont want to spend any time learning ? Go for a Mac. I doubt it''ll prove a problem anyway.
Otherwise stick with a PC, no one will consider you an underdog because you use a PC and the rest of the guys learned on Mac...

How professional you look is not in how much money you have, but in how professional you *behave* with your work. If you have a cheap budget but can squeeze every trick there is from the software to get something nice, it''ll be as much a proof of your skills than being able to use the latest plugins that do the work for you in Max.

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