I saw that interesting thread below and decided to make a new one rather than intrude on it. Thought I might as well try asking here - I''ve thought up some ideas for songs (Typically from my angst), but I have no idea how to write them. Any ideas or methods? Consume - About human nature, how we have to eat and are always doing so, then always planning for the next. Incompatible - Found the seemingly perfect girl, but she doesn''t like me back. Realise it''s not your fault. Wish I Could (Be There) - Wishing I could see what happens to the planet and my family after I die. Losing her - Loss of an immediate member of family. Bottle in hand - Alcohol. Compare to binge by Papa Roach. Blind - About the ignorant, completely happy-go-lucky people out there. Beyond - Past the realm of physicalness. Rot - How our life degrades over time, physically and mentally. Fantasize - About how we can freely make things how we want in our imagination, but that can be dangerous. Lonely - Isolation, despite being in a crowd of people

Hi. I assume you mean my thread below. I am not a particularly great lyricist, but I can at least tell you how I write a song.

As I see it there are two main ways you can write a song - melody first or words first. The technique for the two is really pretty much the same except that in the one case you keep humming the melody and it dictates your choice of syllabic scheme.

The only things you really need to write a song are a notebook and a pen, but a rhyming dictionary really helps. I really like this one. But a pocket one is more convenient if you have particular places you like to write, e.g. in the woods, on your porch/balcony/fire escape, at a mall, in a cafeteria, in a car listening to the windshield wipers, etc.

So when I want to write a song I wait till I''m in the right kind of mood then sit and meditate on my topic - I thought Fantasize was the most interesting concept on your list, so let''s use that for an example. Just sit there with your little notebook and write down anything you associate with that topic. (Fiction, Opera, Mask, Fairytale, all comes crashing down, where''s my happily ever after, this must be my life''s intermission, etc.) Try to get two handwritten pages of this stuff. Try to get a variety of gramatical formations - nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, prepared phrases, cliches you can twist in interesting ways, etc.

Now you pick your syllable pattern and your rhyme scheme (it''s way less work to only rhyme every other line). The chorus should be different from the verses so you don''t get a boring sounding song, and some people split the verses into two categories each with their own sound for maximum variety. So you might get something looking like:
(# of syllables, rhyme)
10 nothing
8 A
10 nothing
12 A

6 B
6 B
6 B
6 B

12 C
12 C
8 D
8 D

repeat this one twice

now back to the first one...


You don''t have to just lay this whole pattern out at the beginning, it''s usually helpful to see what line-lengths your brainstorming naturally seems to fall into.

So look through your pages of brainstorming for anything you particulayly like and anything that rhymes. Use your rhyming dictionary to come up with more rhymes for these. Plug in all the rhymes at the ends of the verses, then fill in the beginnings to get your desired syllable count, hopefully meaning something coherent too.