Is this any better?
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy9.jpg
How could I portray insanity & strangeness in a logo?
February 14, 2003 07:09 PM
"Walk not the trodden path, for it has borne it's burden." -John, Flying Monk
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February 14, 2003 07:12 PM
OMFG THATS INSANE
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February 17, 2003 11:14 AM
Mmmh, Arial is not insane, sorry.
What you can do however, is follow what some of the people told you and mess with it.
A very simple thing I have done many time in Photoshop is to noise your Arial text, then blur it, then unblur it back using the Curves menu (I am NOT gonna repost my tutorial on this technique again, maybe you can look in my profile, though, if you want the lengthy explanation with pictures).
You could use the technique used in The Matrix title, using a simple serif font but by moving bits and pieces across you get a "disturbed" feeling from it.
Similarly, the strength in the Se7en title is not just the fact that it uses haxor typing. Your reversing of the letters doesnt work because you did it too much, and you use Arial.
Why it works in Se7en is because of the way the writing looks like someone use some instrument and scratched it, rather than actually "wrote" it.
Madness will usually be associated with drooling guys, insane giggling, screaming, etc. So, maybe something like Edward Munsch "The scream" (or is it "the cry" in english ?).
Vision of someone in a corner, rocking back and forth. Someone in a camisole (or whatever the name in English is, that restraining shirt lunatics wear, you know, Hannibal Lecter).
Of course, if you dont like the dirty side of insane, then maybe what you are aiming at is "psychedelic" ? Which would illustrate the strangeness much more easily.
Colourwise, you are trying too hard. The thing is that even if you want to make it look weird and insane, you still have to respect the basic rules of Colour Theory.
Kandolo suggestion is a good idea, sticking with the colour theory, yet stretching it to its limits.
Personally I would stick with black and white, with only very sparse bits of colours, and only dark ones, or dirty ones, like sepia, maybe blue ink, spots and stains would be nice, too.
If you want to know what insane look like, you might wanna look up "Malkavian", a clan of very disturbed vampires.
look up artwork for Se7en. Or any movie with a disturbed serial killer. There is a fairly conventional set of stylistic cliches in movies that are used to convey madness.
And for the love of all things sacred, go and look up some fonts !, anything in the Trashy style would be better than damn Arial. (Unless you trash it yourself, as I explain earlier). (download CRAZY KILLER, for a start !
Sancte Isidore ora pro nobis !
What you can do however, is follow what some of the people told you and mess with it.
A very simple thing I have done many time in Photoshop is to noise your Arial text, then blur it, then unblur it back using the Curves menu (I am NOT gonna repost my tutorial on this technique again, maybe you can look in my profile, though, if you want the lengthy explanation with pictures).
You could use the technique used in The Matrix title, using a simple serif font but by moving bits and pieces across you get a "disturbed" feeling from it.
Similarly, the strength in the Se7en title is not just the fact that it uses haxor typing. Your reversing of the letters doesnt work because you did it too much, and you use Arial.
Why it works in Se7en is because of the way the writing looks like someone use some instrument and scratched it, rather than actually "wrote" it.
Madness will usually be associated with drooling guys, insane giggling, screaming, etc. So, maybe something like Edward Munsch "The scream" (or is it "the cry" in english ?).
Vision of someone in a corner, rocking back and forth. Someone in a camisole (or whatever the name in English is, that restraining shirt lunatics wear, you know, Hannibal Lecter).
Of course, if you dont like the dirty side of insane, then maybe what you are aiming at is "psychedelic" ? Which would illustrate the strangeness much more easily.
Colourwise, you are trying too hard. The thing is that even if you want to make it look weird and insane, you still have to respect the basic rules of Colour Theory.
Kandolo suggestion is a good idea, sticking with the colour theory, yet stretching it to its limits.
Personally I would stick with black and white, with only very sparse bits of colours, and only dark ones, or dirty ones, like sepia, maybe blue ink, spots and stains would be nice, too.
If you want to know what insane look like, you might wanna look up "Malkavian", a clan of very disturbed vampires.
look up artwork for Se7en. Or any movie with a disturbed serial killer. There is a fairly conventional set of stylistic cliches in movies that are used to convey madness.
And for the love of all things sacred, go and look up some fonts !, anything in the Trashy style would be better than damn Arial. (Unless you trash it yourself, as I explain earlier). (download CRAZY KILLER, for a start !
Sancte Isidore ora pro nobis !
-----------------------------Sancte Isidore ora pro nobis !
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February 19, 2003 04:46 PM
OK, I''m no artist, I''m just approaching this from what it looks like to someone looking at your logo, so you can do whatever you want with my comments.
When I look at your logo, I don''t really think "crazy" or "insane". It looks more wild and overly busy to me. It looks like a conglomeration of elements with a simple Arial word with some switched letters with a few too many filters run on it. Sorry, but its true.
Here''s what I would suggest. Your logo doesn''t have to be complicated to look crazy. In fact, I think that in this case simpler might be better. That guy ahw had some very good suggestions. If you took a font and moved some of it around to make it look messed up, or made your writing look like it was scratched or drawn with a finger onto a wall, that would be much crazier looking. I think using a simple red or white type on a black background would look good. If you added a disturbing face or image in the back sort of faded behind your text that would be good. You could draw it like a black and white movie, with just the highlights from the part of the face that is illuminated. One last thing, I don''t know much about your website, but I''m not sure how big your logo really wants to be. A little smaller might be good too.
Thats just my two cents, do with my suggestions what you will.
When I look at your logo, I don''t really think "crazy" or "insane". It looks more wild and overly busy to me. It looks like a conglomeration of elements with a simple Arial word with some switched letters with a few too many filters run on it. Sorry, but its true.
Here''s what I would suggest. Your logo doesn''t have to be complicated to look crazy. In fact, I think that in this case simpler might be better. That guy ahw had some very good suggestions. If you took a font and moved some of it around to make it look messed up, or made your writing look like it was scratched or drawn with a finger onto a wall, that would be much crazier looking. I think using a simple red or white type on a black background would look good. If you added a disturbing face or image in the back sort of faded behind your text that would be good. You could draw it like a black and white movie, with just the highlights from the part of the face that is illuminated. One last thing, I don''t know much about your website, but I''m not sure how big your logo really wants to be. A little smaller might be good too.
Thats just my two cents, do with my suggestions what you will.
March 20, 2003 09:41 PM
"Walk not the trodden path, for it has borne it's burden." -John, Flying Monk
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March 20, 2003 09:44 PM
hm... one man''s crazy is another man''s "psychadelic"...
i think you''re moving away from crazy and into LSD trip, but that''s just my opinion.
-eldee
;another space monkey;
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i think you''re moving away from crazy and into LSD trip, but that''s just my opinion.
-eldee
;another space monkey;
[ Forced Evolution Studios ]
Do NOT let Dr. Mario touch your genitals. He is not a real doctor!
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March 20, 2003 09:51 PM
You call THIS one psychadelic!? The other one had 32 bits of color and used it all! This one has 5 colors (red, blue, brownish, white, and black) and various shades of each.
People will never be happy =-/
People will never be happy =-/
"Walk not the trodden path, for it has borne it's burden." -John, Flying Monk
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March 20, 2003 09:58 PM
Hmmm... the thing is that it is symmetrical. Insane is asymmeticral. Looking at the latest version, crazy10, its very symmetrical. There is an upside-down A in the middle, backwards letters on both sides, and the pattern in the back is the same on the left and right. There is also the same color blurring out from each letter. Get rid of the symmetry!
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March 20, 2003 10:18 PM
Try courier new...i think simplicity is much more effective than complexity. 
Brian
Brian
Brian J
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March 21, 2003 10:46 PM
Wow, that last one is excellent, hmmm.......
Try to put a blur effect in it though...
Wait, it looks like someone carved it into a wall of an insane asylum with there fingernails, old school!
That''s awsome man :D
Put a blur effect on it, yes
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Try to put a blur effect in it though...
Wait, it looks like someone carved it into a wall of an insane asylum with there fingernails, old school!
That''s awsome man :D
Put a blur effect on it, yes
DigiCode - My solo company in the process
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