Hi all! I have lots of clothing designs here for you to c+c, please. They are in two batches - the first 8 outfits (4 files) are supposed to have an 80s/punk feel, while the other 16 outfits are supposed to be traditional egyptian/celtic/indian designs - basically clothing that can be manufactured by people with really low technology. So you can make suggestions if you feel any of the outfits don't fit these themes, or if you feel an individual outfit can be improved some way, or if you want to suggest additional articles of clothing for either group! 80's batch: 1 and 2 3 and 4 5 and 6 7 and 8 Traditional Batch: 1 and 2 3 and 4 5 and 6 7 and 8 9 and 10 11 and 12 13 and 14 15 and 16 Yay fashion design! Cookies for everyone who comes up with useful comments! [edited by - sunandshadow on November 27, 2002 10:38:39 PM]

I don''t know much about fashion...but I''ll take a crack at it....only have time to check out the "80''s punk" styles though

okay...of the "80''s punk" designs...

#1 and #2 look a bit ''formal''...sort of ''buisness like'' as if they are some sort of, maybe, military dress uniforms for parades or some formal dinner with the prez...altho, I think the ''jacket'' in #1 could work it''s way into punk fashion

#3 seems more like late 80''s "hair metal" styleing...except for the top of the "leg" thingies...that folded over look does seem remesent of "80''s punk" to some degree

#4 the ''corset'' she is wearing looks good and from the waist up there is some nice punk styleing there...from the waist down it looks like a "comfortable summer dress" type outfit.

#5 the dress is very "80''s punk"! great job on that one The gloves on the hands and feet are a nice touch (what is that on the tail?) the top isn''t to bad...it''s a bit ''buisy''...I think a simple solid color tee-shirt would work well with the dress and you would have a nice overall punk look

#6 looks a bit like "designer ninja gear"...has too much of a formal wear look...sorta like "I''m going to a dinner party, and planning on stealing the hosts dimonds, hidden in the safe"

#7 isn''t bad...but sorta plain...kinda like something you would see Britney Spears danceing around in

#8...color it red and it looks a bit like the comic book character Electra...sorta "80''s hair metal sex kitten" like...

What I would do is take the dress from #5 (and the hand/feet gloves) and mix it with the jacket from #1...but make the jacket shorter (bare mid-drift, but with long sleeves and slightly darker in color)...oh and the dress...maybe change the material to have small black flowers on a green background (sorta like she took the worlds uglyest curtain and wrapped it around herself)...also pull her hair back (actualy ''grease'' it back)...

You have the right idea with that dress in #5...punk style tends to use a lot of juxtableazion...er take a simple one-piece short tight dress but worn with "combat boots" instead of the normal high heels...for example.

Erm...I hope I have''nt offended you...just offering up some (hopefully) constructive critisisam

I''m not offended at all; thank you for the detail of your comments! #5 is my favorite 80s one too. The thing on the tail is just a black vinyl bracelet with shreds of fishnet. I''d like to do some other outfits involving shredded fabric but for some reason it''s difficult to draw and have it actually come out looking shredded. I''m still experimenting with that. One of my problems in creating this set was that I couldn''t find a refrence on 80s clothing styles, only on punk clothing in general.

I am, by the way, trying to come up with several good outfits, not one perfect one; because this is for a graphic novel the character can be drawn with different clothing each chapter. I was thinking that #1 would be for a formal occasion and number 3 and/or 4 would be the characters normal outfits in addition to #5. I know what you mean about juxtaposition; but I was limited in what I could do by the fact that dinosaur feet won''t fit in big chunky boots. And I was avoiding shoulder pads because I wanted the character to have a more gentle look. Anyway, thank you again for your comments, I''ll keep them in mind when I do the next set of sketches.

Here''s your cookie. -> O

Awww, c''mon guys - can''t I get one more set of opinions so I have something to compare to? Pweese?

okay, since he did 80''s, i checked the rest.
1. not a bad design, but looks like girl colors on a guy

2. i really liked this one, outfit design is really original and cool, colors are good too. Not sure about those little bows(?) by the knees.

3. Awesome egyptian style outfit.

4. the design of the pieces is cool, but personally i would put something under it. Without anything under it it has that high cut off t-shirt look.

5 & 6. both good. simple and low tech.

7. Really cool outfit design. Especially liked the cut out shoulders. Colors go well together also.

8. I didn''t really like this one. Really short top thing with long socks. I''d make the top just go down to around ankle length and do away with the socks.

9. nice, not sure what flare from sides of pants are. It would be cool if it was the tail of the shirt which, after going over the shoulder, came down the back and through belt and then flared out.

10. really nice

11. nice but somewhat plain. I figure this is what is intended

12. good one. Red belt adds that little bit of detail. Maybe add something similar to top.

13. quite possibly my favorite. The color fade is great. As with the flares from the side, same as above. The dress wraps around the shoulder and goes through belt and then just flares out again. Really cool.

14. nice but plain. again, i figure this is the intent

15 reminds me of one of the other outfits but with different knitting. plain agian.

16. very cool and original indian style outfit.

on all the plain ones i figure that since you state that they are made by people with low tech, they were meant to be that way. I basically just tried to give a quick to the point overview. Hope that helps.

Thank you! Here''s your cookie -> O

With numbers 9 and 13 you''re right, those are the tails of the shirt sticking out after they go through the back of the belt. You''re right that many of the outfits are very plain - I was experimenting with clothing form, color, and decorative elements all at the same time, so the clothing forms that people like I''m going to add better details to in the next version, and similarly the details (like the cloth that shaded from sky blue to purple) which are popular will be more represented in the next version.

I''ve decided to ditch traditional #1, no one likes it including me. I''m more puzzled why no one seems to like 8 - maybe it would be better if it had pants? I''m trying to keep these outfits covering only a medium amount of the characters'' bodies because they live in a warm environment and because I like to put fanservice in my art.

Number 16 seems to be popular, but I''m worried that it doesn''t match the more egyptian cultural style of the others and might look out of place. Any opinions on this?

quote: Original post by Liquidus4
okay, since he did 80''s, i checked the rest.
1. not a bad design, but looks like girl colors on a guy

2. i really liked this one, outfit design is really original and cool, colors are good too. Not sure about those little bows(?) by the knees.

3. Awesome egyptian style outfit.

4. the design of the pieces is cool, but personally i would put something under it. Without anything under it it has that high cut off t-shirt look.

5 & 6. both good. simple and low tech.

7. Really cool outfit design. Especially liked the cut out shoulders. Colors go well together also.

8. I didn''t really like this one. Really short top thing with long socks. I''d make the top just go down to around ankle length and do away with the socks.

9. nice, not sure what flare from sides of pants are. It would be cool if it was the tail of the shirt which, after going over the shoulder, came down the back and through belt and then flared out.

10. really nice

11. nice but somewhat plain. I figure this is what is intended

12. good one. Red belt adds that little bit of detail. Maybe add something similar to top.

13. quite possibly my favorite. The color fade is great. As with the flares from the side, same as above. The dress wraps around the shoulder and goes through belt and then just flares out again. Really cool.

14. nice but plain. again, i figure this is the intent

15 reminds me of one of the other outfits but with different knitting. plain agian.

16. very cool and original indian style outfit.

on all the plain ones i figure that since you state that they are made by people with low tech, they were meant to be that way. I basically just tried to give a quick to the point overview. Hope that helps.

Yeah, i would defiantly agree that it is a little out of place. All the other outfits seem more egyptian style, while that one seems indian style. I liked it because it did stick out a little, the design was good and different from the rest. Not sure what to do about that. I definantly think the outfit should be included, but i don''t how. Maybe if it was worn by a character that sort of stands out a little from the rest it would be okay. Incorporating it as a different outfit for one character who was wearing one of your other outfits in a different chapter would seem really wierd. Maybe make a few more similar outfits and give them all to one particular character.

quote: Original post by Liquidus4
Maybe if it was worn by a character that sort of stands out a little from the rest it would be okay. ... Maybe make a few more similar outfits and give them all to one particular character.

Oh, that''s a GOOD idea! I have just the character - one of the girls is very hung up on tradition, she''s exactly the type who would be wearing traditional complicated ethnic clothes while everyone else is wearing what''s simple and easy to make. Thanks!