Ok I have what may be a very stupid question. I only ask this because little things every no and then make me wander about something. Is it possible to use LAN equip to sub for a modem? I would think not, but I am very weak in the whole area and it would be a shame make use of it if the possibility exists. Reason being my modem is a winmodem and finding one I know for a fact runs under linux is a damn hard thing to find. The LAN equip however is supported. I doubt its possible but why not know for sure.

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Original post by Goober King Is it possible to use LAN equip to sub for a modem?

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Huh? This didn't make sense. Do you want to use a network card as modem? (The answer would be 'no' then, unless you're really good with the soldering iron.)

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Original post by Goober King Reason being my modem is a winmodem and finding one I know for a fact runs under linux is a damn hard thing to find.

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Rule of thumb: if it's serial, it works. For everything else consult the kernel documentation or have a look at google. I had some potentially interesting hits for Linux with a search for linux modem support. Another hint: internal modems are bad. Why? No lights for diagnosis.

[Edit] It's "Everything Unix", not "Everything Linux"... Sorry, missed that for a moment.

[edited by - Shadowdancer on June 19, 2002 7:55:36 AM]

Well like I figured. Highly unlikly. Just wanted to make sure.

um...DSL

external modem plugs to the phone line
ethernet card plugs to modem

dsl is not dial up. using a dsl modem you cannot access a normal 56k dial up network. this is what is being asked in this question. you might as well tell him to get a second pc running windows, install a nat/proxy, and use it as a router.

you cant use a network card as a modem.

see http://www.linmodems.org/ you may be surprised to find your modem in their database. they have linux drivers for winmodems. some may only be for certain kernal version (ie 2.2 only for instance). make sure you read all documentation.

[edited by - a person on June 20, 2002 1:21:08 AM]

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Original post by Goober King
Ok I have what may be a very stupid question. I only ask this because little things every no and then make me wander about something. Is it possible to use LAN equip to sub for a modem?
I would think not, but I am very weak in the whole area and it would be a shame make use of it if the possibility exists. Reason being my modem is a winmodem and finding one I know for a fact runs under linux is a damn hard thing to find. The LAN equip however is supported. I doubt its possible but why not know for sure.

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Here''s my little experience with what you''re talking about, if you have to seperate boxes, what you can do is have your Windows box share the internet connection and set your linux box to get an address via the DHCP mini server included with the windows internet connection sharing. And you''re off to the internet( you might need to add a route to the windows box as a default gateway though but I think the system is capable of setting it up automaticly for you. ) Worked great for me. If you don''t have to boxes, check for upgrades of your Linux distro or Unix version since they have been able through a bit of work to get SOME( verry little though ) winmodems to work with Linux not sure about Unix though...

If none of this is possible, get a GVC non-win modem which are still sold for probably 25$ or 30$ if I''m not mistaking. Been using my old V.90 non-win GVC for so long and it never let me down. Although Mandrake seems to have some problems identifying it now.



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Original post by Shadowdancer

[Edit] It''s "Everything Unix", not "Everything Linux"... Sorry, missed that for a moment.

Hugh?

Everything Unix is just a replacement name to make it a more general Forum and include every flavor of Unix, Linux, BSDs and also, MacOS X… I think that the name of this forum should be Alternative OSs. So everything related to those systems can be discussed in this forum…

( I simply wanted to clarify… )

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dsl is not dial up. using a dsl modem you cannot access a normal 56k dial up network. this is what is being asked in this question. you might as well tell him to get a second pc running windows, install a nat/proxy, and use it as a router.

you cant use a network card as a modem.

see http://www.linmodems.org/ you may be surprised to find your modem in their database. they have linux drivers for winmodems. some may only be for certain kernal version (ie 2.2 only for instance). make sure you read all documentation.

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There''s no need to install nat and proxy, just install ICS and you have it. Oh and by the way, even though people refer to it as NAT( so do I ), it''s actually PAT and not NAT. NAT requires a pool of public IPs where as PAT using 1 public IP and uses ports for every request made... ( It''s a really long an boring thing to explain. ) I''ve learned that today actually in my NetAdmin course.


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interesting, i never knew that. for those interested:

NAT: Network Address translation
PAT: Port Address Translation

from cisco (http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/nat-cisco.shtml)

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Overloading - A form of dynamic NAT that maps multiple unregistered IP addresses to a single registered IP address by using different ports. Known also as PAT (Port Address Translation), single address NAT or port-level multiplexed NAT.

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seems that a PAT is just a special case of NAT.

this is true though, win98 comes with ICS which is a pretty decent NAT (though has trouble with some games which is why on windows pcs i tend to suggest something like winGate). the only reason i mentioned proxy is that some ppl may not know what a nat is, and when searching it makes it easier.

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interesting, i never knew that. for those interested:

NAT: Network Address translation
PAT: Port Address Translation

from cisco (http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/nat-cisco.shtml)

Overloading - A form of dynamic NAT that maps multiple unregistered IP addresses to a single registered IP address by using different ports. Known also as PAT (Port Address Translation), single address NAT or port-level multiplexed NAT.

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seems that a PAT is just a special case of NAT.

this is true though, win98 comes with ICS which is a pretty decent NAT (though has trouble with some games which is why on windows pcs i tend to suggest something like winGate). the only reason i mentioned proxy is that some ppl may not know what a nat is, and when searching it makes it easier.



If you ever want to look up things like that without having to necessarily look at a specific web site, refer yourself to whatis.com one of the best sites I know…



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